I still think the UK producers need to find their feet in the trance production stakes. There seemed to be a lot of trying to copy the German formulas with the early UK hard trance IMO, and I think to come through the UK needs to start doing things differently, be original & exciting & start breaking the rules & formulation. I agree with Mark about the wishy washy comment. Too many long riffs & stops & starts sometimes in the UK stuff, where as the German stuff always tended to have a darker & twisted element whilst having some uplifting qualitys.