www.mp3skyline.com = cunts

[rhythmtech]

these ****ers are selling loads of our tracks. mine, brad lee's and loads others.

anyone know who they are?

presumebly russian?


cheers for the heads up danny

[DannyBlack]

No bother mate, yeah as Baz says there is wetworks, glenn wilson, mark EG.... everyone and everything. Just be warned lads, the pirates are out to get you.

[113]

C**ts !!


Get some proper hacker and attack their site :cheese:

[rhythmtech]

just been reading their site..

it all looks legal and above board (in russia)

they give a % to the russsian version of IMRO .. although not being a registered label i'll never see a penny of that.. and even if i was registered would i?

bloody mafia.


but at the end of the day its really not gonna make a huge differance to sales..

just bad form on their part

[Tyrisia]

Q: I have already downloaded dozens of MP3s from your site but one of them is low quality or has skips / scratches / noise. What should I do?
A: Since we're uploading thousands of tracks from the different sources daily (vinyls, EPs, CDs, etc) - things can happen. Please contact our support team and we will refund your account for EVERY bad track and advise how to get proper one.

that just says bucketloads to me..

[The Overfiend]

Wow, Wetworks was translated Watworks on that site, now I know how releases ended up on soulseek with that same typo.

[MARK ANXIOUS]

i'm going to persue this when i have a moment. even though you really can't stop this, i will at least have a go purely because i need to know whee re we all stand here.

ok here's the legal statement on thier site:

All materials on MP3skyline.com site are provided for distribution over the Internet in accordance with the license # LS-3M-07-38 issued by NP ROMS. As stipulated by the license, MP3skyline.com makes due payments for all the materials covered by the the Russian Federal Act on Copyright and Related Rights. All the materials are provided for personal use only, their redistribution, sale, circulation over the radio, TV or cable networks being strictly prohibited.

The copyright observation requires you to use the music files presented on MP3skyline.com for private listening only. The Site Administration cannot control the use of materials, presented on MP3skyline.com. Downloading music files from our Site, Customer takes liability for it's further use. This responsibility depends on national legislation of the country where the Customer resides.

All the copyrighted materials from MP3skyline.com like name, logo, design and texts are property of MP3skyline.com.

The trademarks, brands, names, logos, slogans and other copyrighted materials located on MP3skyline.com belong to their Copyright holders. Their commercial use is prohibited without permission.

VERY interested to see what they think this law is.

[MARK ANXIOUS]

what is this np roms? ii can find something for roms, but not np

ROMS: Russian Organization on Collective Management of Rights of Authors and Other Right holders in Multimedia, Digital Networks & Visual Arts

OK here's what I found.

http://www.roms.ru/index.php?option=...gsection&id=10

I'll have a damn good read of this later (I'm knackered), but from what I'm getting it's an organisation that acts as a middle man between us and sites like mp3skyline. BUT the thing here is that they say on their page that

as a collective management organization in the area of copyright and other related rights, ROMS is authorized, under Article 45 of the Russian law "On Copyright and Other Related Rights", to exercise collective management of rights in certain area of copyright use based on:

1. Collective management agreements signed with rightsholders;
2. Agreements signed with other collective management organizations and societies, including foreign;
3. Directly according to applicable provisions of the Law of the Russian Federation "On Copyright and Other Related Rights."
   

So because we have no aggrement with ROMS, then mp3skyline are talking shit and ROMS need to be notified . I think if we send ROMS some type of formal threat (no crappy email - a serious solicitors letter that shocks them), then they will take care of MP3skyline for us.

Anyway, that's my initial thoughts. Anything anyone can add or do to help, would be priceless...

[DannyBlack]

gonna do some checking around Mark, i will post what i find.

[DannyBlack]

all i can find is what you found Mark, whoever owns the rights to the tracks goes through this "ROMS" group. on mp3skyline it does clearly state that they are affiliated with ROMS... which i doubt very much. From what ive heard of the mp3's (not all but a few) they sound like they were recorded right off vinyl.

Id say if you do persue this, the site will be taken down, i doubt very much that you will get any money back off them.

[xes]

you've done it already!! (well,I can't get onto the site)

[DannyBlack]

nah, the site is still there. for some reason it doesnt work with my AOL browser, works in internet explorer.

[koma]

you can't do much by yourself, it has to come from higher instance... recent official agreement noted that Russia has agreed to aid U.S. authorities in cracking down illegal websites such as those carrying bittorrent files or direct downloads of copyrighted music, movies and software - with AllofMP3.com being set as a prime example.

but as soon as allofmp3 closed, new sites opened. one of them is this mp3skyline shyte... organized crime all the way.

[wrong]

Was speaking recently to a guy in russia who showed me all my releases for sale on a site and generally most releases are available there.. think it might have been a different site.. you can only access it from russia i believe, unless you have a direct link for the specific page (or sommit like that) apparently, theres nothing anyone can do as they have weird copyright laws over there.. that was my un-technical summary of the situation..

bummer..

[MITA]

ripp off..we've must of lost gazilion pounds : )

[dirty_bass]

We get a post about these places about every 2-4 months in here.
You can`t stop em, and if you shut em down they will be up under a different name the next day.
Just pay no attention to it, it is much less painful that way. They indescriminently stock everything and anything.

[eyeswithoutaface]

yeah they've got 4 of my releases up, cheeky swines!!!

they actually tell u the source of the track on some of them, for my Klickhaus ep they have listed it says source = vinyl promo haha

madness, but as steve says, best just to ignore, i dare say they wont sell enough of my stuff to improve on my sales anyway, and yeah they usually get shut down pretty quick and just reopen again a few months later with a different name, i remember a few times this situation has popped up

[wrong]

Just think of it as free promotion ;)

[MARK ANXIOUS]

well yeah i suppose i've learnt over the years that there's not much you can do about all this. thought it might be worth giving it a shot but really, all it's going to do is move the problem elsewhere...

[The Overfiend]

So no running into their offices like a bad 50 Cent Video?
Rap Song and all?