wonky techno

[DannyBlack]

Vogel & Landstrumm & Mills & Rob Hood & Basic Channel & Dave Clarke were all just called techno back in the day.

Anyone who does a mix and calls it "detroit techno mix" "wonky techno mix vol 1" "schranz mix vol 2" needs a friendly dropkick to the head. If you cant call it good techno by itself youve missed the point (and probably overlooked 1000's of amazing records because they dont conform). If you want call yourself a techno fan you probably should start your mix with brian eno and finish up with nasenblunten "cunt face". Its easy to get excited when you hear a new 'genre' name: your thinking its gonna be just like 1990 all over again or something. > my advice is just keep hunting for records that can mesmesrize/rock/scare you and a crowd be they at 70 bpm or 150 bpm. And NEVER ever think that you have finally nailed your sound, keep searching

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end of discussion.

[wrong]

massplank for president!!

[RDR]

Magic Feet

RIP tom magic feet

loved that fanzine.

PS - Wonky techno - owt with a lot of modulated synths!

LFO tastic!

[crime]

Vogel & Landstrumm & Mills & Rob Hood & Basic Channel & Dave Clarke were all just called techno back in the day.

Anyone who does a mix and calls it "detroit techno mix" "wonky techno mix vol 1" "schranz mix vol 2" needs a friendly dropkick to the head. If you cant call it good techno by itself youve missed the point (and probably overlooked 1000's of amazing records because they dont conform). If you want call yourself a techno fan you probably should start your mix with brian eno and finish up with nasenblunten "cunt face". Its easy to get excited when you hear a new 'genre' name: your thinking its gonna be just like 1990 all over again or something. > my advice is just keep hunting for records that can mesmesrize/rock/scare you and a crowd be they at 70 bpm or 150 bpm. And NEVER ever think that you have finally nailed your sound, keep searching

word up, your first sentence there is pretty much what I've been trying to say for a long time.. and the rest of what you've said is bang on..

unfortunately most people seem to need little tags or dividers in record stores to make sure they don't stray away from their safe bet, sorry, but when people say they need a term like wonky techno, that's exactly what I think, why do you need these descriptive terms.. there's music you like & music you don't like, end of

@Danny Black..wtf? Don't understand WHERE you are trying to come from at all, but I'm not going to comment on it...

@ Dodgyedgy, Tom is still alive and well, and living in nottingham, just the magazine that went a long time ago....

[DannyBlack]

language barrier perhaps?

[judas_beast]

It's shit, I prefer minimal-glitched out-hard edge-psy-bass-core or something. Who gives a ****?

[crime]

language barrier perhaps?

why, which language do you normally speak?

[DannyBlack]

why, which language do you normally speak?

english, but i find trying to type my point across doesnt always work out to well for me...

my point about "wonky" techno is...

sod it, Judas Beast is right... i love all techno.

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english, but i find trying to type my point across doesnt always work out to well for me...

my point about "wonky" techno is...

sod it, Judas Beast is right... i love all techno.

what kind of colour would you say red was if you had to classify it?

[DannyBlack]

now your just being a Dick.

what i was saying is: techno is faaaaaantastic and what people are calling "wonky" is also faaaaaaaaantastic.

[crime]

now your just being a Dick.

ROFLMAO

oh deary deary me....

[DannyBlack]

ROFLMAO

oh deary deary me....

PM'd

[Paul Zykotik]

this is precisely why I'm bailing out of the whole thing, there came a point where it just got too silly... gonna kill off my artist name, give up music for a year, and if I do start up again, no-one will make the connection for a while...

I'm personally pretty serious about my music..

what do you think this so-called "wonky techno" is anyway? I've never heard of what you're talking about...

I admit that I have a limited experience of what I would term wonky techno (although perhaps I won't anymore, given this discussion). I have stuff on labels like Don't, Miditonal, Kitty Corner, Neue Heimat, Horspielmusik...and what stood out most for me was that a lot of these tracks were fun. Party tracks. Is that necessarily a bad thing? To me it's important to have tunes that put a smile on your face and I think there are tunes from people like TSR, Edit (or 3D!T ?) etc. which manage to do this without being cheesy. As long as it doesn't get too ridiculous then there should be room for this style in amongst the more serious output IMO.

[wrong]

Yep... thats the best kind of music for me,.... music with humour exploding from it without actually having to tell jokes.. TSR and 3d!T are masters of it... they've got those lolloping chundling beats locked down.. and @paul zykotik.. Horspielmusik was a great great label... really used to look forward to the next one all the time.. now they've slowed the release schedule and are releasing mainly minimal plinkyplonk which isn't of bad quality but it does leave a gaping hole in things..

[judas_beast]

what kind of colour would you say red was if you had to classify it?

I think the usual classification for red is that of Primary Colour. If one wanted to be particularly anal, which one doesn't, one could say it is an Additive Primary Colour. Anyway, I digress.

:P

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I admit that I have a limited experience of what I would term wonky techno (although perhaps I won't anymore, given this discussion). I have stuff on labels like Don't, Miditonal, Kitty Corner, Neue Heimat, Horspielmusik...and what stood out most for me was that a lot of these tracks were fun. Party tracks. Is that necessarily a bad thing? To me it's important to have tunes that put a smile on your face and I think there are tunes from people like TSR, Edit (or 3D!T ?) etc. which manage to do this without being cheesy. As long as it doesn't get too ridiculous then there should be room for this style in amongst the more serious output IMO.

it was a bit of a rhetorical question... quite funny to think that I wouldn't know anything about what anyone is talking about here...

I made the first record on Kitty Corner, would you not consider that "serious output"?

this is my problem with the wonky term, serious, quality output gets lumped in with stupid rubbish, and whilst sense of humour is cool, there is a point where it goes from being funny, to just plain dumb.. remember the geek at school that thought he was being funny, when at the end of the day he was coming across like a dick?
Noodles = good humour
Miditonal =

[Paul Zykotik]

it was a bit of a rhetorical question... quite funny to think that I wouldn't know anything about what anyone is talking about here...

My original post wasn't referring to your last statement about never having heard of what's being talked about, so I should have removed that sentence when I quoted you.

I made the first record on Kitty Corner, would you not consider that "serious output"?

Indeed. I was originally going to refer to it but didn't believe it relevant. I picked up the most recent release (004, the TSR one) and that was a far cry from your release, which I also have. Which, given the difference, is what made me curious as to what you thought about the less serious side and whether or not it had a place. From my perspective I enjoy both records equally and don't find one too chinstroky nor the other too silly.

this is my problem with the wonky term, serious, quality output gets lumped in with stupid rubbish, and whilst sense of humour is cool, there is a point where it goes from being funny, to just plain dumb.. remember the geek at school that thought he was being funny, when at the end of the day he was coming across like a dick?

For sure - it just read to me like you didn't believe there was room for fun music in techno. Of course it can go too far - look what happened to happy hardcore - but I still believe it's important that the party tunes get a look in. But a tune shouldn't have to be 'wonky' to necessarily be fun...

[audioinjection]

wether it be wonky, hard, minimal, deep i love it all............... fuk all yall :P

[DannyBlack]

minimal is shit, i hate this i hate that, im far to serious and a genius to agree that something is cool when it clearly isnt.

[RDR]

@ Dodgyedgy, Tom is still alive and well, and living in nottingham, just the magazine that went a long time ago....

Who was it that got killed in that scene then.. i seem to remember somthing about it...

oh dear glad to hear that tom is alive and well, and if he's reading this, thanks for the fanzine tom - a damn good read.