Too much influence?

[dirty_bass]

Well you have to ackowledge that some of the most creative and innovative music that has been made and recorded would probably never have happened if not for drugs.
opening your mind is one thing though
hammering your brain so you can barely operate equipment or getting to the state where inspiration only comes through drugs is a whole other problem.
I tend to think that drug music only entertains drug people, but that`s not always the case.

[eyeswithoutaface]

Well you have to ackowledge that some of the most creative and innovative music that has been made and recorded would probably never have happened if not for drugs.
opening your mind is one thing though
hammering your brain so you can barely operate equipment or getting to the state where inspiration only comes through drugs is a whole other problem.
I tend to think that drug music only entertains drug people, but that`s not always the case.

well yeah, but i feel innovation is subjective, one mans turd and all that, and more often than not, when someone presents me with a piece of music that was made by someone on drugs, 99% of the time it sounds just that, music that's been made on drugs. Il use someone like Frank Zappa as an example, because im a huge fan of guitar music and non electronic music shall we say, and the amount of times people have said to me "oh Zappa is amazing, made his stuff off his face on acid" and what not, and ive just listened and heard not much except someone losing it on acid. But of course i know what you mean and im sure there are exceptions to the rule, i just dont personally think drugs are a good catalyst for creation, regardless of how many examples someone would put infront of me, as for me the amount of good music available that WASNT made by someone off thier head far out weights the amount of music that WAS made by someone off their head

for me anyway, like i say, its all pretty subjective

[detfella]

well yeah, but i feel innovation is subjective, one mans turd and all that, and more often than not, when someone presents me with a piece of music that was made by someone on drugs, 99% of the time it sounds just that, music that's been made on drugs. Il use someone like Frank Zappa as an example, because im a huge fan of guitar music and non electronic music shall we say, and the amount of times people have said to me "oh Zappa is amazing, made his stuff off his face on acid" and what not, and ive just listened and heard not much except someone losing it on acid. But of course i know what you mean and im sure there are exceptions to the rule, i just dont personally think drugs are a good catalyst for creation, regardless of how many examples someone would put infront of me, as for me the amount of good music available that WASNT made by someone off thier head far out weights the amount of music that WAS made by someone off their head

for me anyway, like i say, its all pretty subjective

funny you should pick zappa because he didn't take drugs and actively campaigned drug-taking since the 60s. he wouldnt let band members take them on the road either!

good topic scott. agree with steve in that too much of 1 style stagnates the mind & body. i enjoy listening to as much music as possible from here there and everywhere, but this leaves one problem...no time to make music! it can be compared with knowledge once you know what is out there you can try & do different or build on it. if you dont know it already exsists you might repeat...thought i'd just have a splatter of words

[eyeswithoutaface]

funny you should pick zappa because he didn't take drugs and actively campaigned drug-taking since the 60s. he wouldnt let band members take them on the road either!

good topic scott. agree with steve in that too much of 1 style stagnates the mind & body. i enjoy listening to as much music as possible from here there and everywhere, but this leaves one problem...no time to make music! it can be compared with knowledge once you know what is out there you can try & do different or build on it. if you dont know it already exsists you might repeat...thought i'd just have a splatter of words

well i wouldnt know as gospel, with zappa ive only ever gone on what people have recommended and told me stories about, ive never been able to get into him or researched him or what he was about, but i think this is a bit of an on going debate as alot of people seem to be convinced he was a space cadet, whilst it is documented in various places that he was as you say anti drugs

either way its tosh to me ;)

[detfella]

well i wouldnt know as gospel, with zappa ive only ever gone on what people have recommended and told me stories about, ive never been able to get into him or researched him or what he was about, but i think this is a bit of an on going debate as alot of people seem to be convinced he was a space cadet, whilst it is documented in various places that he was as you say anti drugs

either way its tosh to me ;)

now peter tosh...