studio setups

[fatcollective]

all ya need these days is: -

a damn good PC (with legit copy of cubase or other sequencer)

good solid sound card

plenty of VST's and samples (legit copies if poss, but plenty available for free these days anyway)

Midi keyboard

good monitors (most important)

and away ya go!!

[stjohn]

all ya need these days is: -

plenty of VST's and samples (legit copies if poss, but plenty available for free these days anyway)

sorry to bring up the age old debate....
but im convinced that software does not match up to hardware :)

ive been messing with my mates new Virus... and it burns any software out there in terms of sound!! it functions as an external distortion/filtering system... and works as a VST viz the USB interface.. I have nearly every decent VST under the sun and nothing sounds this good!!

drum machines then again... i havnt tried the new audiorealism one... but for pure sound... Jomox Xbase series, and pure functionality, elektron machinedrum... wipe the floor IMO...

as i said sorry to bring this up ...but im convinced the as far as pure sound quality goes.... hardware all the way!!

this is of course only for my tastes..software enthusiasts do your thing!!1:cheese:

[fatcollective]

sorry to bring up the age old debate....
but im convinced that software does not match up to hardware :)

ive been messing with my mates new Virus... and it burns any software out there in terms of sound!! it functions as an external distortion/filtering system... and works as a VST viz the USB interface.. I have nearly every decent VST under the sun and nothing sounds this good!!

drum machines then again... i havnt tried the new audiorealism one... but for pure sound... Jomox Xbase series, and pure functionality, elektron machinedrum... wipe the floor IMO...

as i said sorry to bring this up ...but im convinced the as far as pure sound quality goes.... hardware all the way!!

this is of course only for my tastes..software enthusiasts do your thing!!1:cheese:

your totally right, hardware is fvck loads better than any vst...but for a basic set up for none hardware freaks...you dont actually need all the kit!

[RDR]

sorry to bring up the age old debate....
but im convinced that software does not match up to hardware :)

ive been messing with my mates new Virus... and it burns any software out there in terms of sound!! it functions as an external distortion/filtering system... and works as a VST viz the USB interface.. I have nearly every decent VST under the sun and nothing sounds this good!!

drum machines then again... i havnt tried the new audiorealism one... but for pure sound... Jomox Xbase series, and pure functionality, elektron machinedrum... wipe the floor IMO...

as i said sorry to bring this up ...but im convinced the as far as pure sound quality goes.... hardware all the way!!

this is of course only for my tastes..software enthusiasts do your thing!!1:cheese:

I dont agree

esp in the case of the virus - its a piece of hardware that runs software, and if its the new one it has a usb interface as well...

[RDR]

Macbook 2gh C2d 1gb ram

Tannoy monitors

UC33e

Evultion MK249c USB 66note keyboard

Behringer BCR2000 - Good!

Mbox 2 Factory - Joe meek plugins..hehe! (legit)

Pro-Tools 7.3 nuff said.

Ableton 6.0.10 (legit)

Shure SM58+Stand

Korg M1+all the cards ever made (software - but its the same as having one as you cant say its a virtual digital synth... it sounds WAY better) LEGIT

Korg Wavestation (software - but its the same as having one as you cant say its a virtual digital synth... it sounds WAY better) LEGIT

Korg Mono/Poly - Real

Sequential Circuits Pro 1 - Real

Alesis D4 - Shit

Emu Proteus FX - Worse than shit

Gmedia - Minimonster (what a synth.. amazing playing enhancements!) LEGIT

[stjohn]

I dont agree

esp in the case of the virus - its a piece of hardware that runs software, and if its the new one it has a usb interface as well...

yea thats very true... same with the machinedrum also!!! BUT.... why sound so good?? does the software Virus sounds as good? and would a software machinedrum sound as good??... id like to know

i suppose you could put it down to the dedicated DSP engines onboard, that are tailor made for each machine...
i know that €1000 odd is alot to spend on any instrument... but it always seems to sound better....dont get me wrong, im not under the impression that spending money automatically gets you in the brilliant sounds gang, but it definately helps.

IMO

[dirty_bass]

sorry to bring up the age old debate....
but im convinced that software does not match up to hardware :)

ive been messing with my mates new Virus... and it burns any software out there in terms of sound!! it functions as an external distortion/filtering system... and works as a VST viz the USB interface.. I have nearly every decent VST under the sun and nothing sounds this good!!

drum machines then again... i havnt tried the new audiorealism one... but for pure sound... Jomox Xbase series, and pure functionality, elektron machinedrum... wipe the floor IMO...

as i said sorry to bring this up ...but im convinced the as far as pure sound quality goes.... hardware all the way!!

this is of course only for my tastes..software enthusiasts do your thing!!1:cheese:

Well, I was trained and worked in a 100% analog studio (for 4 years), even the sequencing was analog.
And I have absolutely no qualms with using software.
Any tool will sound good if you know how to treat it right.
My old mentor heard some dubby stuff I brought him, and even he didn`t work out what was analog and what was digital when I was asking him to master it (and he runs the 100% analog studio).

I can`t stand any of the virus synths personally. They sound too crunchy for me. If you want true analog then it has to be vintage or nothing. As the virus synths aren`t even analog anyway, and run on processors, basically running the same algorythms as present in the better soft synths.
Most people don`t realise that a lot of hardware sounds "better" because they have hardwired Exciters and Expanders sitting over the outs to sweeten up the sound.
Pull em apart and you`ll see for yourself.
It`s something that has been going on for ages.
Just get yourself some good software exciters.
Bbe does a good one.

As for the debate.
There isn`t one.
Whatever you use, it`s a matter of personal taste with your working method.
Just make sure you know how to use it, and how to get the best out of it.
Either digital or analog, it makes little difference now.

[stjohn]

Most people don`t realise that a lot of hardware sounds "better" because they have hardwired Exciters and Expanders sitting over the outs to sweeten up the sound.

u know what... i actually was thinking this was the case! i was wonderig how and what would make the output of the Virus sounds so wide and present..

but in saying that... it sounded brilliant!! the bbe one crashes my sessions for some reason... but it did work for a while and it sounded good , but i sitll think the Virus was streets ahead of anything i could have gotten from s/w... and i was only playing with it for about an hour! i hear you about the crunch, but i kinda like that sound, filthy but clean!

regarding the analog side... i dont necessarily mean analogue is best... i dont have much analogue gear... but IMo any machinedrum down sounds alot better than drumatic, microtonic and other s/w drumsynths.... IMo of course...
it seems that a lot more blood sweat and tears goes into a fully functioning beatbox, hence the price difference and moreover an improved sound quality..

anyway horses for courses...coz im not really aware of all the technical ins and outs of each instrumenet..i can only really go by what sounds good to my ears!!

[fatcollective]

Good monitors are very important, its worth spending a bit on a decent pair...without a good (accurate) sound coming through, all your hardwork tweeking and eqing will be useless and probably sound shit!

[RDR]

Good monitors are very important, its worth spending a bit on a decent pair...without a good (accurate) sound coming through, all your hardwork tweeking and eqing will be useless and probably sound shit!

Yes indeed +1!