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    i'm not english, and therefore don't buy into the whole "we should always win and if we don't it's someone's fault" mentality i see from some (but not all) of you lot :) but i think in this case it's deserved: it's really mclaren's fault. he's a terrible manager...the sven days show that, at the very least, england is talented enough to consistently quality for and make it to the second round of major int'l tournaments.
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    all of those factors.

    the difference really was not having Terry around who was their captain.

    Gerrard didnt have an inspiring display.
    they missed Beckham.

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    I'd have to go with McLaren also, i mean some of the tactics he's tried have not been right and playing certain players out of position..

    England i'd of put down as a dead cert to qualify from the start, the fact now that it's in the balance is well bad news..England have a squad of stars who are involved in the best league in the world,, imo..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlavikSvensk View Post
    i'm not english, and therefore don't buy into the whole "we should always win and if we don't it's someone's fault" mentality i see from some (but not all) of you lot :) .


    True enough but been scanning the papers today, reading the reaction to the result and the media are all looking to blame someone, but depending on the clumnist you read you'll get an entirely different person attacked for 'costing' us qualification.


    Just interested to see who the fans, based on the BOA sample;), really think should be held responsible for the failure.


    Ironically we did play well in Russia and McLaren, by luck more than judgement, had finally stumbled across a team that could play together, but too little too late to save him and, imo, the Lescott at left-back decision has to be the nail in his coffin.


    If only he'd have picked Phil Neville.




    As for missing Terry - I'm not so sure that was really a problem - Campbell and Ferdinand formed a good partnership - just as they have on many occasions in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kai View Post
    True enough but been scanning the papers today, reading the reaction to the result and the media are all looking to blame someone, but depending on the clumnist you read you'll get an entirely different person attacked for 'costing' us qualification.


    Just interested to see who the fans, based on the BOA sample;), really think should be held responsible for the failure.


    Ironically we did play well in Russia and McLaren, by luck more than judgement, had finally stumbled across a team that could play together, but too little too late to save him and, imo, the Lescott at left-back decision has to be the nail in his coffin.


    If only he'd have picked Phil Neville.




    As for missing Terry - I'm not so sure that was really a problem - Campbell and Ferdinand formed a good partnership - just as they have on many occasions in the past.
    he's just not good at getting the best out of his players. the steady success of teams like sweden, who lack the large number of superstars countries like england, spain, italy, etc. just prove how much the game is about coordination and inspiration.
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    why does anyone have to take the blame? England fans need to realise that they don't have the God given right to win every game, it's the blame culture and media hype that spoil International football in this country...

    the tabloids are full of s**t, if McLaren is guilty of anything it's readin too much of the bollocks that's printed in the press, it's a joke, the booing of players is a joke, how could McLaren play Phil at left-back when the fans are booing the player when he comes on as sub, McLaren's damned if he does and damned if he don't, not defending him as any manager with balls would have played Phil anyway and disregarded what the mindless Wembley 'fans' think...

    and the penalty decision was a joke too, it wasn't even a clear cut foul and it certainly wasn't in the area...

    International football will remain a farce in this country whilst people are so brain-washed by what they read in the tabloids...
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