Keeping track names secret?

**majortom** · 03-12-2003, 12:01 AM

i think its worse than any where down here in the good old south, too many people playing the same style tunes and caining the same producers

**DJ Corbzy** · 03-12-2003, 12:10 AM

yeah innit tommo, and if you find a nice tune, it's nice not to tell anyone who it's by....get your mix on it before everyone else does... :clap:

**Jay M** · 03-12-2003, 01:17 AM

so corbz .
if you made a track and someone was playing it and someone asked what it was would you want em to tell em or not?

**Louk** · 03-12-2003, 10:39 AM

corbz - i seriously question your attitude

"yep, your right I dont, because I see it from a point of view from a dj who is one of many trying to break out there, if every other person is playing the same tunes as me im just a nobody... "

is the biggest load of bullshit ever there are many interesting things you can do to a set despite having hte same tunes as everybody else you can try loads of fx, scratching and also what if other djs can't beatmatch as well as you

seriously man !!!

Louk

**Louk** · 03-12-2003, 10:40 AM

also if i gave you any of my tunes and you didnt tell anyone else who they were by i'd certainly not give you anymore. :)

Louk

**MARKEG** · 03-12-2003, 11:17 AM

let's not get too heated but i think i can see where corz is coming from - i LOVE having a record that no one else has (ie sly tracks) but if someone else gets it, well someone else gets it. there's no point in crying about it - you move on. surely? and thats why i can't see the point in not showing someone who the record is made by.

i like the idea of disrespecting producers work, it's feasable, but tbh a dj is a dj and producer is a producer so i'm not going with this argument if that makes any sense. hmmm... my opinion :hmm:

**Louk** · 03-12-2003, 11:23 AM

but mark surely you'd be a bit pissed off if you gave a copy of your tune out to a few djs who decided they'd rather "be ahead of the game" than let people know about your tunes and promote them??

Louk

**EmotionComplex** · 03-12-2003, 11:28 AM

the way i see it dj's need producers to function, and in the hard trance/hardstyle/techno etc area the producers are actually making the tracks for a club and structuring them to be mre dj friendly, i can also understand the feeling of wanting to keep something special to yourself for as long as possible cos lets face it the chances are these days that you are playing 70-80% of what someone else is playing so finding the sneeky releases can be hard work, but at the same time if i had wrote something and released it and people thought it was good enough to play in a club id be anxious for it to get around if u get me, tbh its a subject i havent got a straight opinion on yet as i can see some of both sides

**MARKEG** · 03-12-2003, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Louk

but mark surely you'd be a bit pissed off if you gave a copy of your tune out to a few djs who decided they'd rather "be ahead of the game" than let people know about your tunes and promote them??

Louk

well not pissed off, cause i know that one dj isn't going to make or break a track, but if i'm honest i'd be like - why are you doing that?!?! mind you, if you were giving that dj a load of your stuff to play and he never told anyone, people would find out in the end wouldn't they?! as they say in the magazine industry - any press is good press!

**Tim Hidgem** · 03-12-2003, 01:11 PM

I see giving out track names as a valid point of customer service to your crowd.

Its too much of an oppurtunity not to miss to talk to people initerested in wot your doing and playing. Many things can come from small conversations and I find that being helpful to my crowd soon gets returned even if its just the fact of them saying I'm a sound guy.

Wot goes around comes around and I practice going out of my way to be helpful to people in any way I can.

You can only benefit from Djing with this attitude.

**Tim Hidgem** · 03-12-2003, 01:19 PM

After the last Religion a guy e-mailed me to ask about a certain tune I'd played cause he couldn't find it anywhere.

I told him that if he was down at the next Religion I'd give him my copy.

This I did and the guy hasn't stopped thanking me yet.

Since then this guy has done more promoting for me by word of mouth then I could have ever expected all for the sake of a £7 easy replacable piece of plastic.

One step back two steps forward. ;)

**Addict** · 03-12-2003, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Louk

corbz - i seriously question your attitude

"yep, your right I dont, because I see it from a point of view from a dj who is one of many trying to break out there, if every other person is playing the same tunes as me im just a nobody... "

is the biggest load of bullshit ever there are many interesting things you can do to a set despite having hte same tunes as everybody else you can try loads of fx, scratching and also what if other djs can't beatmatch as well as you

seriously man !!!

Louk

Sorry but didn't you say somewhere else that you judge a DJ on tune selection and not FX, beat matching and scratching?

**DJ Corbzy** · 03-12-2003, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Louk

corbz - i seriously question your attitude

"yep, your right I dont, because I see it from a point of view from a dj who is one of many trying to break out there, if every other person is playing the same tunes as me im just a nobody... "

is the biggest load of bullshit ever there are many interesting things you can do to a set despite having hte same tunes as everybody else you can try loads of fx, scratching and also what if other djs can't beatmatch as well as you

seriously man !!!

Louk

WTF! You talk shit mate, utter shit....So you'd be happy in a world/rave where every dj played all the same tunes?

P.S. What if there were no fx on the mixer? And scratching?

WTF! Scratching is not for Trance mate....

I question your attitude....

**DJ Corbzy** · 03-12-2003, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Jay M

so corbz .
if you made a track and someone was playing it and someone asked what it was would you want em to tell em or not?

I actually wouldn't mind mate, cos if they didnt say anything to them about the track, they are gonna have more hunger to find the tune, and then they deserve to have it and play it and keep it sneaky of there own...1 person is not going to damage the sales of a tune...

**Carl** · 03-12-2003, 03:26 PM

if i went up to a dj and asked for the name of the track that was playing and they said 'no, im not telling' you, i would give them one f uckin' dirty look and probably have something to say about it to. i think doing that is pathetic, and very quickly disgusting. after all im there making the party what it is, surely i deserve the respect of knowing what tune it is im dancing to?

**K Front** · 03-12-2003, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Carl

if i went up to a dj and asked for the name of the track that was playing and they said 'no, im not telling' you, i would give them one f uckin' dirty look and probably have something to say about it to. i think doing that is pathetic, and very quickly disgusting. after all im there making the party what it is, surely i deserve the respect of knowing what tune it is im dancing to?

Spot on. ;)

**Louk** · 03-12-2003, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Addict

Sorry but didn't you say somewhere else that you judge a DJ on tune selection and not FX, beat matching and scratching?

I do judge a DJ on Tune Selection far more than mixing beat matching and scratching and did word that point across very shit but the end of the day two people with exactly the same records can still play quite different sets. I'd rather hear a DJ play loads of utnes i like and mix them all poorly rather than play the set of the most upfront tunes perfectly mixed was my original post!

Louk

**Louk** · 03-12-2003, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by DJ Corbzy

WTF! You talk shit mate, utter shit....

Thank you for that comment - nice to see that you are not being opinionated and defensive in the slightest there!!! Your viewpoint is not always the right one my friend.

Originally Posted by DJ Corbzy

So you'd be happy in a world/rave where every dj played all the same tunes?

It's sometimes nice to hear the same tunes more than once in a night! When i said everybody else has the same tunes as you that was something I didnt mean literally just that if a DJ has 2-3 tunes the same as you and plays them so what it still would mean for a good set !!!!!!

Originally Posted by DJ Corbzy

P.S. What if there were no fx on the mixer? And scratching?

WTF! Scratching is not for Trance mate....

Tell that to DJs like the 4 Play Boys / Kev Rose / Eddie Halliwell and other DJs who scratch over trance tunes - and stop being so narrow minded!! I like scratching on trance eddie halliwell plays loads of stuff like Pure Thrust, Dreamland, Igor S and scratches the **** out of them sounds amazing!!!!!!

Originally Posted by DJ Corbzy

I question your attitude....

Why? Because I choose to tell people the name of sneakys and for liking scratching and liking it when DJs on the night play tunes more than once? If so then fair enough but...well thats up to you

Mat just said "if everyone kept what they were playing a secret then the whole scene would fall on it's arse..."

That's the way I reckon you can sum up this arguement.

Cheers Mate Look forward to your reply not that you will say Im talking utter shite again or anything!!!!

Louk

**log:one** · 03-12-2003, 07:17 PM

MIAOW!

**log:one** · 03-12-2003, 07:20 PM

although i actually disagree with louk on this topic, hats off to him for discussing it in an adult fashion.

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