has it all gone a bit too ravey?

[ds2]

there seems to be a lot of clubs these days that are putting on as many djs as they can at their nights and giving them anything from 30 mins to 1 hour to play.

is it just me or has it all gone a bit too ravey, is it a knock on effect from the hard house to techno mass bandwagon jump of a few years ago?

there's a party i've seen that's on this weekend where mark eg is playing for 30 minutes. what's the point in that? :whoops:

[conflict]

no point what so ever

[teknorich]

I grew up in the Happy Hardcore and Hardcore techno scene, so I'm used to shorter sets. I don't really want to see a DJ play for 4 hours, just can't get my head round it. But I'd say the minmum should be an hour, maybe the optimum 2 hours?
30 mins is a waste of time. He'll hardly be warmed up when it'll already be time to mix out for the next guy...

[eyeswithoutaface]

yeah it can take a good 15-20 mins to get into the swing of things sometimes, the minimum set should be 1hr 30 mins, maximum, whatever really, some of the best sets i've seen have been the longest. Dave Clarke did a wikid 4 hour set in Manchester about 6 years ago that stand's out in my memory

[nuclearaudio]

hes playing in 2 rooms at the evnt and was only put on in the techno room because he requested to play , he is doin a hardstlye set in the main room fro 40 mins and a techno set for 40 mins , pretty cool i'd say ,

variety is the spice of life

[nuclearaudio]

and hes playing the last set of the night so wont be anyone on after him ,

didnt mark do a 21 minute to know on radio one , was pretty amazing how he managed to showcase the kind of techno it was in so little time , maybe this will have the same effect in a 40 min set,
?

[ds2]

i'm not knocking your night, whatever works for you i guess. i just used mark's set as an example of one of many right now.

it's just not what techno's about for me. i grew up seeing people like jeff mills, fumiya tanaka, rob hood and even sven vath play 3 hours upwards and have the whole club eating out of their hands with no one leaving the dancefloors all night.

The first time BMB played for us in 2004 with Female they did something like 4 1/2 hours and that ranks as one of the best sets i've ever heard. And yet Surgeon's on in Leeds next week playing on a line up of 8 djs/live acts in the space of 7 hours. :whoops:

i must be getting old.

[ComputerControlled]

i'm not knocking your night, whatever works for you i guess. i just used mark's set as an example of one of many right now.

it's just not what techno's about for me. i grew up seeing people like jeff mills, fumiya tanaka, rob hood and even sven vath play 3 hours upwards and have the whole club eating out of their hands with no one leaving the dancefloors all night.

The first time BMB played for us in 2004 with Female they did something like 4 1/2 hours and that ranks as one of the best sets i've ever heard. And yet Surgeon's on in Leeds next week playing on a line up of 8 djs/live acts in the space of 7 hours. :whoops:

i must be getting old.

i wouldn't worry too much about it - variety is the spice of life as they say.

these days it's harder to fill clubs than it used to be, especially techno events. and people paying to go to clubs just want value for money so booking more artists makes sense when filling events, especially the bigger ones where more is at risk. and either way, it just depends on the night doesn't it? and who's on.

surgeon is playing in two hour set in leeds next week. nothing wrong with that. he played for three hours for us last and he was awesome, people loved it. but i still think that these days most would be just as happy to hear him for one hour if the dj/live act following on from him was just as good.

30 minutes is a bit ridiculous though. i agree with you on that.

[Technobitch]

just like playing back to back though init, only get 30mins then and most are happy to do that



i do think that some of the massive line ups do look silly , but its what the paying public want, loads of djs for half the price


long as the dj's themselves dont mind doing it and have a good time playing their set then its ok with me :cheese:

[ds2]

surgeon is playing in two hour set in leeds next week. nothing wrong with that. he played for three hours for us last and he was awesome, people loved it. but i still think that these days most would be just as happy to hear him for one hour if the dj/live act following on from him was just as good.

30 minutes is a bit ridiculous though. i agree with you on that.

glad to hear it, i want to catch him and speedy j next week if i can.
just hope they're both on at different times.

[...Dave...]

short sets are bollox.

whats the point in playing less that an hour?

minimum should be 90 mins.

as for the idea of if someone plays 30 mins they play all the best tunes....thats hillarious laughed my cock off then.

[rubberduck]

i'm not knocking your night, whatever works for you i guess. i just used mark's set as an example of one of many right now.

it's just not what techno's about for me. i grew up seeing people like jeff mills, fumiya tanaka, rob hood and even sven vath play 3 hours upwards and have the whole club eating out of their hands with no one leaving the dancefloors all night.

The first time BMB played for us in 2004 with Female they did something like 4 1/2 hours and that ranks as one of the best sets i've ever heard. And yet Surgeon's on in Leeds next week playing on a line up of 8 djs/live acts in the space of 7 hours. :whoops:

i must be getting old.

Alright Paul. I'm pretty gutted to be reading this to be honest after I offered to help promote you night by putting your posters in takeaways etc for nowt. And for the record I think your techno lineups are some of the most cutting edge in the UK - so respect on that front.

Generally my nights have acts that play live and therefore I think that an hour is respectable but at the end of the day this is dictacted by the artist.

For Saturday 17th Event at West Indian Centre the running order for the Room 237 room is:

22:00 - 23:00 Daz Quayle
23:00 - 00:00 Rob Hall
00:00 - 01:00 Sleeparchive
01:00 - 03:00 Surgeon
03:00 - 04:00 Mark Broom
04:00 - 05:00 CC DJ b2b P45

Hopefully you can come along

[ds2]

Alright Paul. I'm pretty gutted to be reading this to be honest after I offered to help promote you night by putting your posters in takeaways etc for nowt. And for the record I think your techno lineups are some of the most cutting edge in the UK - so respect on that front.

Hopefully you can come along

i'm definitely coming next week, looking forward to seeing surgeon and speedy j up the road if they're not clashing.

i wasn't having a go at anyone's events at all, it just seems like there's suddenly loads of nights putting long line ups on with much shorter sets which is something i've not seen for years since the big rave days. it's not something i'm into personally but that doesn't mean it doesn't work for others.

it was the nuclear audio line up that made me think about it more, i just used the surgeon gig next week as another example.

[dubs]

30 mins gives no room to play a particularly interesting set. More like wam bam thankyou maam. I wouldn't bother with an event like that even if it had great dj's across the bill.

[Numeric]

i was really diggin the 21 Minutes to Know set but a lot of folk on here dissed it...

with rich on the set times, hour mimimum but four hours seems excessive...

[The Overfiend]

I think you need at least an hour to get open.
Unless the crowd is specifically there to get their heads bashed in right off the bat.

[DannyBlack]

Personally i dont mind that, the Kommunity boys gave me and filthmonger 45 minutes each a while back because they had 2 headliners. i was delighted, its all good like.

[Lag]

why the hell wouldnt they do that?
30 min means everybody gives their best stuff away
always look on the bright side of life :]

[Stella Boy]

30 min means everybody gives their best stuff away

classic

[wenna]

no problem for me whatsoever!