has it all gone a bit too ravey?

[DannyBlack]

personally i just love music, so if i have to play it in 30 minutes or 3 hours- i will. im not painting the mona lisa or crafting an art installation, im whipping out beats, whatever timeframe i have is the timeframe i have.

[rhythmtech]

2 hour sets should be standard IMO. I want a DJ to take me on a journey, not bash out the big hitters...

well said.. hour and a half at the very least.

[fatcollective]

i like an 1 hour an half/ 2 hours, plenty of time to get in to it and show people what your all about!!

[clubsynthetic]

Yeah, sets under an hour are a bit annoying for the dj who just gets into it by the time he ends his/her sets end and the fact that the crowd wants a journey. The only time one should see a 20 min set is at the DMCs.

The awakenings this year in holland (the one in july or march or something i think) lasted from 12 till 12 and i was chewing my puss off so i can't mind how long each DJ played for.

It is a shame sometimes i have seen hardcore clubs in edinburgh ram in the guests to get punters and that doesn't even pack it out on the occasion i was there.

why have a 5 minute look at a good piece of art when you can look at it for 300?

[Jay Pace]

After 20 minutes I run out of records and have to play b-sides. Who plays for an hour? Tis not human...

[Kokotorobot]

i personally have a problem with these longer journey type of dj sets where they try to dramatically plan a set...starting with slower tunes and getting into the peak then slowing...always bothered me, just boring really, leave that for the car or your headphones

i go out to party, i mean it should be 110% full on from start to finish, with max 1 min interesting fillers inbetween to calm down a bit before rinsing it out again...really in the moment, straight in your face

no ambient no psychedelia

but then again, im radical and weird, so take this as a maximally biased opinion

[A.P.]

2 hour sets should be standard IMO. I want a DJ to take me on a journey, not bash out the big hitters...

Totally agree with ya mate.

[robin m]

Shorter sets are fine with me in their place, depends what the DJ's about. Totally true there's no point surgeon or someone playing for less than an hour but if someone's got a particular angle they want to hammer for 30-45 mins that can work too. Take ghettotek, I'll dance my tits off to it with a bit shiteating grin for half an hour but keep it up much longer and it gets a bit thin.

Playing half an hour can be a good experience, you don't have to go in thinking you've got to cram in all the big hitters you'd normally spread over 90 minutes - instead take a very particular sound that you maybe couldn't pull off as well or would wear thin over a longer set and really go to work with it.

I've got nothing against a lineup with 3 or 4 shorter sets each with a distinct attitude all built around a centrepiece 2 hour headliner... you can have both worlds in the one night. I totally agree about those A5 flyers you see with 10 bajillion names packed into 2 rooms though, sod that.

[module]

i'll do any gig really..

when i used to dj, i would do a QIKMIX thing where if i was only playing an hour (or under) i would trick & chop & bang thru as many tracks & tricks as possible.. jus ****in leather it.. if i got 2 hours or more, i could get really into it break it down & go somewhere & do all that shit..

a good act adapts to their situation.. i always ask when ppl 'book' me.. its the same with the lappy now.. ig i got 60 mins or less, i'll give it the balls.. if i got around 2 hours, i'll plan some places to go & do that journey bollox..

jus get over it & play the bloody music lol

[module]

oh.. and ****ing scratch techno djs.. PLEASE.. no more than 45 minutes.. honestly.. its gets really realy thin..

[Aratron]

there seems to be a lot of clubs these days that are putting on as many djs as they can at their nights and giving them anything from 30 mins to 1 hour to play.

is it just me or has it all gone a bit too ravey, is it a knock on effect from the hard house to techno mass bandwagon jump of a few years ago?

there's a party i've seen that's on this weekend where mark eg is playing for 30 minutes. what's the point in that? :whoops:

joke really

[wrong]

I believe if the time you've been given to play your set in forces you to compromise what you're gonna play then thats a bad thing.... I lose track of the ammount of times i hear things like ' yeah i was only playing an hour and i was tucked in between dj x and dj y so i just banged it'.. And i include myself in having said that.. If you've got some music that you know is gonna work the dancefloor but isn't 'straight up' then you need time to introduce it.. like changing your clothes.. start planting bits and bobs around the place, maybe add a hat... then slip off the gloves.. when the smoke machine's on really thick change your jumper , then finally, when the crowd 'aren't looking' you can whip your trousers off, on with ya bermudas and hey presto.. you've changed and the crowd haven't noticed but now you can do what you like cos you're in your comfortable clothes! Its hard to do that in an hour, let alone half; hence the temptation to stay wearing the last dj's clothes often wins when playing short sets. boo
(apologies for the metaphor)

[...Dave...]

I believe if the time you've been given to play your set in forces you to compromise what you're gonna play then thats a bad thing.... I lose track of the ammount of times i hear things like ' yeah i was only playing an hour and i was tucked in between dj x and dj y so i just banged it'.. And i include myself in having said that.. If you've got some music that you know is gonna work the dancefloor but isn't 'straight up' then you need time to introduce it.. like changing your clothes.. start planting bits and bobs around the place, maybe add a hat... then slip off the gloves.. when the smoke machine's on really thick change your jumper , then finally, when the crowd 'aren't looking' you can whip your trousers off, on with ya bermudas and hey presto.. you've changed and the crowd haven't noticed but now you can do what you like cos you're in your comfortable clothes! Its hard to do that in an hour, let alone half; hence the temptation to stay wearing the last dj's clothes often wins when playing short sets. boo
(apologies for the metaphor)

priceless:lol:

[clubsynthetic]

in my opinion, techno works best when you layer a shit load of subtle changes within the frequencies you're hearing. I think to do this best you can't do this with a short set, as it takes time for these frequencies to manifest into what they are becoming. Contrary to what short, choppy, "going for it" 1/2 Hour sets seem to try to do, i find them the opposite and usually boring.

I get why DJs have to adapt, but whats the point in booking them in the first place if one is asking them what to do? If thats the case play yourself!

[Little_Fella!]

I believe if the time you've been given to play your set in forces you to compromise what you're gonna play then thats a bad thing.... I lose track of the ammount of times i hear things like ' yeah i was only playing an hour and i was tucked in between dj x and dj y so i just banged it'.. And i include myself in having said that.. If you've got some music that you know is gonna work the dancefloor but isn't 'straight up' then you need time to introduce it.. like changing your clothes.. start planting bits and bobs around the place, maybe add a hat... then slip off the gloves.. when the smoke machine's on really thick change your jumper , then finally, when the crowd 'aren't looking' you can whip your trousers off, on with ya bermudas and hey presto.. you've changed and the crowd haven't noticed but now you can do what you like cos you're in your comfortable clothes! Its hard to do that in an hour, let alone half; hence the temptation to stay wearing the last dj's clothes often wins when playing short sets. boo
(apologies for the metaphor)

Yeah, great metaphor that and so true... if you've just obtained some new and interesting tunage that is more where your at, or have some stuff that you would be more keen to play that isn't the usual barnstorming, then it would be very frustrating to know that you don't have the time to experiment with the crowd to see if they get it or not...

So the dilemma is set and as you say, the tendency is to play it safe so that you don't create any negative feedback on your 'half hour of "fame"... definitely boo!!

[Little_Fella!]

in my opinion, techno works best when you layer a shit load of subtle changes within the frequencies you're hearing. I think to do this best you can't do this with a short set, as it takes time for these frequencies to manifest into what they are becoming. Contrary to what short, choppy, "going for it" 1/2 Hour sets seem to try to do, i find them the opposite and usually boring.

I get why DJs have to adapt, but whats the point in booking them in the first place if one is asking them what to do? If thats the case play yourself!

I agree with this... the point of techno when I first started listening to it at parties is that each of the elements of a track would be subtely brought forward and focused on throughout the mix...

...an amazing sound would become apparent late on in a track, which you would get off on, only to realise on listening again, at home say, that that particular sound had been running through the track all along... hmmmm:coffee:

[djshiva]

a monkey can beatmatch for 30 minutes.

i wanna see someone who can go from one place to another, who can build a set, pull it down and build it right back up again.

i mean, i have always compared djing to sex, so i shall extend the metaphor...would you rather have sex for 30 minutes? or for several hours?

then again, maybe this isn't a metaphor for a lesbian to use in a room full of boys, eh? ;) i do have the advantage, after all. ;)

[koma]

i mean, i have always compared djing to sex, so i shall extend the metaphor...would you rather have sex for 30 minutes? or for several hours?

then again, maybe this isn't a metaphor for a lesbian to use in a room full of boys, eh? ;) i do have the advantage, after all. ;)

garnier also said once, dj-ing is like sex, you can't f*ck all the time, you have to go up and down :xcool:

[wrong]

garnier also said once, dj-ing is like sex, you can't f*ck all the time, you have to go up and down :xcool:

exactly... you need troughs to accentuate the peaks

[clubsynthetic]

yeah. You don't feel like you have reached the summit till you climb there.

Does anyone, 'tho, think it's true that the anticipation can be greater than the thing your anticipating?