Hard Trance Events Scene Decline?

[Louk]

shame that pilgrimage the new monastery is happening in Plymouth then isnt it!!! ;)

Louk

[edk]

bugger thought it was torquay just the same promoters then !!. well gutted

[mrbenn]

I agree cross genre DJ'ing is the way forward. In the early days of dance music was'nt put as clasified as it is today. It was just dance music. People came had a good time and listned to a variety of tunes. I personally find it boring going to a club and listening to 3 dj's all spin the same type of tunes. I like to listen to a range of music, it makes the night more intersting.

For example you feel different listening to funky techno to how you feel when your listening to bangin hardstyle. Also I feel people should now be afraid to try new sounds as its all revolution. I dunno how everyone feels but sometimes when I go out I dont get as excited as I used to, maybe clubland needs some exctiment!! firebreathers, juggling clowns more scantaly clad sexy ladies!!

Seriously though Il say im only 17, & so I cant really talk about back in the day cos i wasnt there, but its the idea ive got from what ive heard. I would like to think of myself as hopefully being a pioneer in change in the scene over the next few years (hopefully :lol:) . The things I say may seem wrong to some of you who have been in the scene for years. I am just starting my clubing life & am looking at it as a newcomer and seing what I feel is wrong. I dont know how much clubland thinks about the new generation of clubbers but sometimes it could do with paying more attention to try and keep us interested. After all we are the future.

[mrbenn]

oops i kinda missed the boat on this one, read the first page and wrote the above, didnt realise there was another 4 pages. The first line "I tottaly agree about cross genre dj'ing" realtes to something paul nessbit said on the first page.

Big dj's may sometimes get the crowds (although this isnt allways a guarantee) but sometimes underperform, by this I mean when you get a big name producer playing the top slot even though hes shite at mixing and plays a shite set he get the main time slot cos hes famous. Unknown dj's or those that are unknown cos there just breaking through are often the best. However alot these djs often dont get the chance to play the main set and are stuck playing warm upsets for ages. I know good up and coming dj's who have quit because of bad payment and because of promoters not giving them the opportunity they deserve. I know its hard to fill up a club with unknown names. But if a promoter for example found some top unknown talent and put on night. after a few nights or events it should get a loyal following and give the new djs a chance of stardom!. its been a problem for ages and probbably allways will be, but something need to be done!! any ideas, im a talking complete cod shit?! The beer is starting to kick in!

[willabsorb]

wow hakka!!! havent you unearthed a can of wrms mate!!! :lol: good thing too though, if it is not spoken of how are we supposed to know what others think! my views on it are that to many clubbers they believe the scene is not as good as it was because they scene a faze of it come and go...dont mean to sound girlie but its like a first kiss is always better than it is a year later...
everyone has been on about the decline of dance music simce i can remember! but we are all still here, going out, bying tunes, making tunes and getting on stage infront of people and doing are thing. it is becoming increasingly harder to make money out of dj'in, producing or promoter but that surely is a good sign...its because everyone is doing it! there are more dj's etc... now thaqn there ever has been, from that we have to remember thaqt the cream will rise in the end. instead of worrying about it i really believe we need to work as hard as possible to make it abit diferent, a new twists!
the whole subject of promoters going out of business and stuff to me is simple. if you cant afford a venue...dont use one! if you cant book the big dj's...then dont. there are so many wicked acts who will play for a laugh in the woods or warehouse. i really dont believe that dj's pull in crowds alone or the same with kick arse venues...the vibe of the party does that, wherever it is and with whoever is playing!!! a few summers ago a friend of mine (matt handy) put on a party in some woods miles from anywhere with a few mates playing, 1000 people came...a few weeks later in some sand dunes...about the same number turned up! networking with genuine people from all ends of the industry is what makes it all happen in my opinion. be honest and dont treat people like cunts is always a good philosophy for me.
as fare as the actual music being made today, i have to agree it s hard to find real quality to appeal to our own unique taste, but it is out there. ive just had to become alot more selective as to what i buy and play as apposed to walking into a record shop with £'s and spending them anyway because thats why i went there.
i hope that made some kind of sense anyway...just my opinion!