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yeah see that is a pretty big reason to not totally switch to digital. happened to me a while back, but luckily the sites i had purchased music from were kind enough to let me me download again.
I now use a clone hard drive just in case, but what if the clone goes down? a back up of the back up is just silly, but you never know, it could happen
I dont fancy lugging a RAID-Array around with me to gigs.
:lol: Dont then.
Mountains out of mole hills. One of the golden rules is to ALWAYS back-up. Multiple copies etc etc.
No-one would blink an eye if I said that i took backup copies of my live set with me to a gig.
How different is it to taking spare needles? Aside from the different process, you're still taking spares.
Do without it? Nae bloody chance. I'm wanting all the good music i can get my hands on, no?
anyways, you loose a record, and can't buy it again, you do without that choon ENTIRELY. whats the point in that? i mean, come on, at least if you loose your 5000 tune collection on MP3 or wav or whatever you will most certainly get ALL OF THEM BACK as long as you bought them all legit, or you get them by the way of the leech. innit?
I think part of the reason this debate still rages is thus:
"Oldschool" DJs may be scared of updating to modern technology, and with this argument they can make the debate over which format is "art" or "warm" or whatever into the focus, and not have to ever face the fact that vinyl as a medium is limiting as **** in this era of digital solutions.
OK - I can mix two tracks together, cut between them, and maybe the mixer will have some delay I can use. WOW.
Or I can spend some months learning how Live works and then coming to terms with the fact that ALL BOUNDARIES ARE GONE.
I think the fear of suddenly having a massive pond to swim in is what motivates a lot of these tosspot articles. Proponents of the future of dance music technology can be written off as "anti-art" or "uninformed", even when they know full well where the future is headed.
Last edited by the_psychologist; 08-12-2007 at 10:58 PM.
If you can't back your DJ collection up with a single 300GB drive, then you may want to think about sifting the chaff out a bit.
It boggles my mind that people still think backup is some mysterious process. You copy your whole DJ folder to another physical drive. Done. If both locations fail, then the gods have decided that your DJ career should end. Don't fight it.
Last edited by the_psychologist; 08-12-2007 at 11:03 PM.
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Isolation is the gift.
Does anyone have courage to stand apart any more?
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http://www.myspace.com/dirtybassvoidloss
http://www.subgenius.com
Its simpler than that.
A single 20 CD wallet will easily contain all the music you could possibly want for a 2 hour set. And using CDJ1000/800 will mean decent control over the music.
Funnily enough i would always take a few pieces of vinyl for scratching purposes. What is a DJ if he cant scratch? I even take Vinyl if i do a live set for the same purpose.
I've always thought that to restrict yourself as a DJ to a particular style/genre/equipment base is foolish in the extreme. I mean you dont see the best guitarists only capable of playing one style, or in fact not being able to pick up a bass and use that.
Its laughable to me that there are DJs out there who cannot operate a CD deck/A turntable/Ableton/Any mixer presented to them.
Call yourself a DJ? The definition of DJ encompases many different skill sets and abilities andif you havnt got them all - get learning, because if you dont, you can be 100% sure that someone else well.
Yes, this is also critical.
At least spend some time learning how to beatmatch in case you somehow get stuck with shitty CD decks or something.
The ideal for me would be lappy running Live, wallet of CDs in case my laptop fails (or I just want to use a CD on top of everything else), and some vinyl for chucking into the mix and scratching (not that I'm good at it yet). This can all be condensed down to one smallish bag if you plan well.
nae point in being able to use them all if your shite at all of them.. I would rather see someone able to juggle/turntablism on decks incorporated into techno etc rather than someone sounding mediocre on ableton live. its not a prerequisite to play all forms but helps.
one may also be restricting themselves with what they can do within a particular format (music output wise/skills etc) by jumping at the chance of getting something newer quickly.
I don't think records are deed and buried. but i like to watch the artist i'm looking at do some amazing things visually (controlling the music) as well as musically. I'm scared that newer formats will give artist the option of how much they "feel like" playing live and how much is just automated. with old instruments like guitars artists were forced to play completely manually, i.e Hendrix with the guitar etc - looks and sounds amazing to me - nowadays artists have so many layers not all can be controlled at the same time manually - which kinda removes some o the magic away for me..
Isn't that any why your average uneducated joe blogs likes hardware better than software, cos you can see how much shit your doing on it (or more of it anyways) and it looks like more fun to play than software based stuff?
Last edited by clubsynthetic; 10-12-2007 at 01:05 PM.
Interesting way of looking at things.
And yes, the new formats can, if the "artist" in unscrupulous, be very automated.
But then it`s up to those in the know to keep these people in check really.
Both the promoters and the Punters should keep aware of what is happening.
I`ve seen many hardware live acts miming liive. Most of the psytrance lot play from dat and mime.
The infamous Lab 4, famed for their live act (and very nice guys) totally fake it, play a CD and just mime behind mountains of keyboards.
So the technology is almost irrelevent, people will get away with faking it, if we let them.
Lets not lose too much perspective though, how hard is it really to play 2 records together? It`s not that much of a physical task either.
However, the whole point of a DJ is to play music that gets people moving by playing great music. Why do we expect them to perform now?
Is the music so droll we are bored of dancing and now need to stare at the DJ and wait for them to entertain us like a dancing monkey?
The dance music scene has always been driven by the music, and when it becomes driven by the cult of personality, it becomes wrong in my opinion, and we get people like Tiesto and that whole crock of shit that comes with it.
It slowly becomes another form of pop music then.
Dancing monkeys and organ grinders.
Solitary by nature.
Isolation is the gift.
Does anyone have courage to stand apart any more?
myspace.com/dirtybassgrooves
http://www.myspace.com/dirtybassvoidloss
http://www.subgenius.com
you're all a bunch of whinging cunts! :lol: whatever medium you use, perfect it and have a laugh using it.
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Well abelton is great and all that. But for djing. I dunno. I dont see the point in re-arranging other peoples tracks for playing out. Is'nt that what the producer of the record spent day + weeks at?![]()
In regards to that article, it's always amusing when the obviously clueless talk like experts. ;) But, without digressing on that, and adding to your "oldschool" point, I think a lot of it has to do with resentment. I started with vinyl. I think it's generally easier for me to mix with. That's about my only real preference to it. But, for so many people that have taken it further, somewhere along the way, I've almost always found that a complaint is registered about "kids" not having to look hard for their "rare gems" while building up an equal or better music collection for cheap or, God forbid, free.
A person belonging to one or more Order is just as likely to carry a flag of the counter-establishment as the flag of the establishment, just as long as it is a flag. --P.D.
I think larry levan and nearly 100% of the early NY house DJs might argue with you there.I dont see the point in re-arranging other peoples tracks for playing out.
They HAD to re-edit tracks to make them usable on the dancefloor, add intro's outtros and edit the break. So did Kool Herc. The DJ needed these tools to perform.
i suppose technology isn't important at all, just what one is doing with it. I just get the feeling that the more technology allows one to be lazy, the more one will be in general.
The reason i expect djs to perform is the fact that thats what separates them these days from any other old dj. Indeed, the music is the most important thing. I just cream when i see a good performer play good music. As long as the music is good. If not, the artist in question looks very, very bad. I think its charisma what gets me by the baws.
i would have given my right arm for Gayle San when i seen her play at dogma.
Last edited by clubsynthetic; 10-12-2007 at 08:46 PM.
playing mp3's to me is like eating tinned cabbage with a badger. sure it may be fun, but in the long run carrots will always be orange.
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