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    guess its a case of knowing your market, and advertising properly. Thats by no means a dig at you, but it'd be my first thought when a night with Speedy J flops

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    i hate promotion. i've never been any good at it. but damn, i can see the power of it.

    i think it's definitely a case of what's hot and what's not these days and with techno, it's even more so than ever when you have a headliner. you would have thought under normal circumstances speedy would have been a sure fire winner but then again, scotland is a very very hard place to get something going. and speedy really hasn't been in the headlines too much recently...

    well pick yaself up mate, and keep flying that flag. sorry to hear it didnt work out as planned...

    ps sure, would be nice for them to drop their fees but when they can easily get 20000 ppl rockin in a party in holland and get paid full whack on a regular basis, you can see why they dont. perhaps it's time to invest more in up and coming local talent and uk names....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MARK EG View Post
    i hate promotion. i've never been any good at it. but damn, i can see the power of it.

    i think it's definitely a case of what's hot and what's not these days and with techno, it's even more so than ever when you have a headliner. you would have thought under normal circumstances speedy would have been a sure fire winner but then again, scotland is a very very hard place to get something going. and speedy really hasn't been in the headlines too much recently...

    well pick yaself up mate, and keep flying that flag. sorry to hear it didnt work out as planned...

    ps sure, would be nice for them to drop their fees but when they can easily get 20000 ppl rockin in a party in holland and get paid full whack on a regular basis, you can see why they dont. perhaps it's time to invest more in up and coming local talent and uk names....
    aye ive been to 2 dutch parties, Defqon 1 Festival 30,000 and qlimax 25,000.
    I have to say these places do fill out, but if ive noticed anything about these mega raves is that not all the people are proper into the choons. Ive seen a fair few of them just there to be there, ie, its qlimax and defqon.

    Have to say tho, fair play to the dutch the stage shows and the money put into the events is second to none, gotta be the best in the world and we british i feel are lacking and will always be lacking i think behind them in terms of dance music in all forms being more accepted throughout the younger and and older generations...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattboyslim View Post
    guess its a case of knowing your market, and advertising properly. Thats by no means a dig at you, but it'd be my first thought when a night with Speedy J flops
    WOW, stop!

    not refering to our night with regards to speedy...(and countless other big names by the way)

    we promote the lesser known and have done well over the coarse of 4 years plus....but we have ventured out abit of late and over the coarse of at least 2 nights payin not to bad fee's and not doin so well has seen us struggle...so
    to book a huge mofo and encounter same sorta situation we'd b on our arse...as has some other nights that have appeared and opted to go down the big name road....it just isnt feasible in this city just now.....but that cant b the fault o the promoter surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuK-NuT View Post
    WOW, stop!

    not refering to our night with regards to speedy...(and countless other big names by the way)

    we promote the lesser known and have done well over the coarse of 4 years plus....but we have ventured out abit of late and over the coarse of at least 2 nights payin not to bad fee's and not doin so well has seen us struggle...so
    to book a huge mofo and encounter same sorta situation we'd b on our arse...as has some other nights that have appeared and opted to go down the big name road....it just isnt feasible in this city just now.....but that cant b the fault o the promoter surely?
    the way it came across it sounded like you were talking about your own night. think mark hit the nail on the head about fees anyway. and frankly the cheaper acts are preferable personnally. no expectation means no disappointment, and often massive excitement when its goes off totally unexpectantly

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuK-NuT View Post
    we promote the lesser known and have done well over the coarse of 4 years plus....but we have ventured out abit of late and over the coarse of at least 2 nights payin not to bad fee's and not doin so well has seen us struggle...so to book a huge mofo and encounter same sorta situation we'd b on our arse...as has some other nights that have appeared and opted to go down the big name road....it just isnt feasible in this city just now.....but that cant b the fault o the promoter surely?
    When I was going out in Edinburgh, around 98-01, the busiest nights were definitely the ones where it was just the residents playing. Nights like Pillbox, Apex, Loop, even Lift only booked a big name once in a while. Pure could do it every time but that was because Pure was Pure and people would go regardless of who was on. Lost / Dogma had it cracked too, but generally the place always struck me as a party city that isn't too bothered about big names, even to the extent where if the residents weren't playing then people wouldn't go down as they wouldn't be entirely sure of what to expect. Maybe that's still the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Zykotik View Post
    When I was going out in Edinburgh, around 98-01, the busiest nights were definitely the ones where it was just the residents playing. Nights like Pillbox, Apex, Loop, even Lift only booked a big name once in a while. Pure could do it every time but that was because Pure was Pure and people would go regardless of who was on. Lost / Dogma had it cracked too, but generally the place always struck me as a party city that isn't too bothered about big names, even to the extent where if the residents weren't playing then people wouldn't go down as they wouldn't be entirely sure of what to expect. Maybe that's still the case.
    pritty much is the case for us m8....our busiest nights without a word of a lie have been when myself and sekonz have stood up plus putting on local's...

 

 

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