something deffo needs done...

[RDR]

Yeah, that's my wet dream too...

The wave will come round again.... it's a case of catching it when it does and riding the front of that wave before the bandwagon jumps on the back of it!!!:teach:

Thing is with waves is that no two are alike, and those who continue to succeed are the ones who took the time to change both their outlook, image and the way they presented their music both in terms of method of playing and the sort of music they played.

Ive said it before, music IS the very essence of change, it revels in change, without change it wouldnt be exciting at all. Sure the wave will come back, but then no two waves are alike.

Techno in its very nature is supposed to be at the cutting edge of technology, yet I see so many people stuck in 1995, or 1990 or 1985... nothing wrong with that per-se but at what point does a person become an echo of technology rather than the sharpened blade of the music that made them sit up and take notice.

Or do we believe that we are different? Do we truly believe that we are nothing like the majority of bands who play covers or busk to make money so they can follow their art or song writing? What is a DJ if not a person who plays covers? When are we going to admit to ourselves that the special position we put ourselves in when we became "Techno" isnt really that special and the world owes us nothing... except that which we work hard enough to make for ourselves.

[FuK-NuT]

erm some o us still like going out and dancing to techno....uz old cunts can stay in all yeh want am gona strive to make tings better!

;)

[RDR]

erm some o us still like going out and dancing to techno....uz old cunts can stay in all yeh want am gona strive to make tings better!

;)

Less with the old :lol: :hissyfit: :Angry:

The C u Nt word is fair play.

Oh, and we DO run a techno night ;)

www.puretechno.co.uk

[dirty_bass]

erm some o us still like going out and dancing to techno....uz old cunts can stay in all yeh want am gona strive to make tings better!

;)

It`s not that simple though. That`s too reductionist.
Otherwise why buy records at all, why not just buy a 909, turn it on, and let it run for 6 hours plugged into the soundsystem while all the gurners jump about.

People make the music, people play the music, people dance to the music people listen to the music, it`s an organic lifeform.
And the people making it need to be still excited for the people dancing to it to remain interested, and not get bored.
The people dancing still need to be energised by the music, and so expect the people making it to come up with the goods.
the people who appreciate it more solidly want to listen to it as well outside of the clubs, and expect more than just boom boom
the people making it need some kind of money to support them, the studios, and the vast amount of time required to be able to make music of good quality
etc etc etc etc etc
It all interacts.

It`s not easy to boil it down to....
We just wanna get mash up and jump about, who cares about the other stuff

It`s complex, and requires thought.

however it`s also fun and hedonistic.

[davethedrummer]

It`s not that simple though. That`s too reductionist.
Otherwise why buy records at all, why not just buy a 909, turn it on, and let it run for 6 hours plugged into the soundsystem while all the gurners jump about.

reductionist!
now i've heard it all !!!

[theledge]

And the people making it need to be still excited for the people dancing to it to remain interested, and not get bored.
.

Exactly, and it's the producers and djs who nurtured their love for techno by sweating it out for endless hours on the dancefloor, transfixed by the beauty and power of the music, who end up translating their experiences into music and performances which do the same for others

There's too many djs and producers who just sit at home scratching their arse and ego, the only time you see them in a club they're behind the decks sucking the promoters cock or handing out flyers, they should get on the dancefloor and maybe learn something

[theledge]

as far as this thread goes in general, i've seen loads of promoters **** up by booking big names and having no-one turn up, even back in the so-called glory days. It was invariably because they didn't know what they were doing, didn't know the local punters, probably never went out themselves and held the mistaken belief that spending loads of money on a big name would guarantee them hundreds of heads through the door. I'd say that's likely to be the case here too tbh

Big name djs with successful careers earning loads of money like speedy j are the end result of a succesful mature party scene/culture/whatever, they don't guarantee its existence in themselves, just by turning up and hey presto partytime

[Kells]

as far as this thread goes in general, i've seen loads of promoters **** up by booking big names and having no-one turn up, even back in the so-called glory days. It was invariably because they didn't know what they were doing, didn't know the local punters, probably never went out themselves and held the mistaken belief that spending loads of money on a big name would guarantee them hundreds of heads through the door. I'd say that's likely to be the case here too tbh

Big name djs with successful careers earning loads of money like speedy j are the end result of a succesful mature party scene/culture/whatever, they don't guarantee its existence in themselves, just by turning up and hey presto partytime

In other words or to put it short, No matter who the hell you have on the bill, you still have to promote the arse out of it to get the end result..

if you dont you WILL loose out

[theledge]

In other words or to put it short, No matter who the hell you have on the bill, you still have to promote the arse out of it to get the end result..

if you dont you WILL loose out

to be honest i think the words promote the night kind of put the wrong spin on what is needed. if you mean loads of glossy flyers i don't agree, what is needed is the creation of a unique excitement factor, bubbling up via word of mouth....not just another manuactured night with a star name but a real local social gathering....this doesn't come from flyers, it can probably only be achieved by years of cultivating relationships and friendships across your local community, sweating it out on the dancefloor or doing whatever you do best, people will then listen to you and come to your party cos they're your friends and not just consumers

and of course that makes it a pleasure for you too :)

[Little_Fella!]

Ive said it before, music IS the very essence of change, it revels in change, without change it wouldnt be exciting at all. Sure the wave will come back, but then no two waves are alike.

Techno in its very nature is supposed to be at the cutting edge of technology, yet I see so many people stuck in 1995, or 1990 or 1985... nothing wrong with that per-se but at what point does a person become an echo of technology rather than the sharpened blade of the music that made them sit up and take notice.

Or do we believe that we are different? Do we truly believe that we are nothing like the majority of bands who play covers or busk to make money so they can follow their art or song writing? What is a DJ if not a person who plays covers? When are we going to admit to ourselves that the special position we put ourselves in when we became "Techno" isnt really that special and the world owes us nothing... except that which we work hard enough to make for ourselves.

Yeah, very well put and I think everyone likes to believe that their particular genre of music is the most special on the planet - - and yet there is the reality that you mention...

My motivation to do something in the world of Techno is purely because it is a type of music that for a long time would throw at you sounds and scapes that you have never heard before, and emotional journeys within a dance music format that I had never been on, which I struggled with at first, but then got the point and fell in love with...

What is the motivation these days to put in the large amount of effort, physically and emotionally, that is required to run a moderately successfull night... surely the initial motivation has to come from within in order to sustain the emotional drive that will keep your belief system in place when the going gets tough.??? ....hmmm:coffee: