Regardless mate, on how they won the 2 cups they still won. They didnt just end up in the final, they had to beat quality teams to get there, even if they did win on penalties they deserved it, having to go through the likes of barcelonas, juventus, chelseas of this world is not easy and i challenge whichever team you support to do the same...

Its easy to point the finger at the manager and not at the players. Ok yer Gerrard scored a few vital goals, isnt that what hes suppose to do? I mean after all its what hes paid for... With regards to the 05 final i think in reality the praise should go to jerzy Dudek... He won the game with his penatly saves...

It makes me laff really, you look at the arsenals, chelskis and uniteds of the prem and within that squad you have 4 or 5 20+ million pound players..

At Liverpool we have 2 mate, Gerrard and Torres, i think you will find thats why they score the majority of the goals there thats there natural ability. If we had the money to buy these £20 + mil players then am sure you would see the same results as the top 3...

Rafa does have his faults, rotation mad sometimes, but hes only using the players he has available. Liverpool are still playing catch up as ive said earlier..

Id give rafa a season or more, how quick realistically do people want to win...

This isnt football manager...

It took fergie 4 years to win anything and he was on his way out if he didnt win the FA Cup... He did and look were he is now...

U talk rubbish mate.