Dj Mag Who Do They Think They Are?????

[davethedrummer]

now this is one real gripe i have .
i know they always piss everyone off here with the DJ top 100
nazi self-promoting wAnker djs on the planet list every year.

but this time it's not just sour grapes.

did anyone get december's issue of DJ Magazine ?
ok...no-one , well i don't blame you but i did, i was flying and i wanted something to read , and they didnt sell the Beano or Playboy so i settled for DJ Mag
so.........it came with a cover mounted CD by this bloke OMID16B
now i don't want to be mean because he comes across in his interview as a nice geezer but..
F U C K M E !!!! this album stinks !!! and they are giving it away like its some kind of industry rule book breaking uber cool thing to do:
"aren't you lucky, lucky readers ???"etc etc...
and we're supposed to all nod our heads in time to the boring bland house beat
and say:
" oh yes!!!! oh thank you DJ Mag for saving our taste in music !!! without you we'd all be listening to things we really enjoy ,and making out own minds up, what a terrible terrible situation to be in!!"

and now.....
in Januarys issue ( the wife bought it for me to read ....honest!!! )
they are having a big discussion about the state of the music industry and mentioned in the title of the article are two things that were ( according to them ) major blows to the music bizz in 2007

they were apparently :
1. amato going bust ( ok i'm down with that, they were massive , perhaps not as big as hundreds of jobs being lost at EMI recently but i'll let it go )

2. this bloke OMID16B releasing his latest album as a free CD on their front cover!!
i mean helloooooo.......Radiohead anyone?

and then they precede to waffle on about m3s mp4s mp5s....CDs Vinyl and blah blah feckin blah and omid 16 is in there round the table waffling too, along with a record shop owner from camden who isn't even really in business yet!!!

AND.....what about kinetec records ???? i think to myself, they were going for ten bloody years in the heart of london's west end and have completely redesigned their business because of the latest digital trends!
why are you ( DJ Mag ) not asking a representative from them to join the debate?
eh? why!?!

my point is:
the music media is really clutching at straws now , trying to keep us blinder and more ignorant than ever before
they are closing ranks, shutting doors, blowing their own very tuneless trumpets and why?
not because they believe in it any more
because they are scared for their jobs and their income
and you know what?


it shows.

[Aratron]

@dave the drummer. any acid coming out soon. im rattling.

[davethedrummer]

@dave the drummer. any acid coming out soon. im rattling.

man!!
what kind of a reply is this?

****@!! i'm off to get a cup of tea.....* stomps downstairs in foul mood *

[Aratron]

man!!
what kind of a reply is this?

****@!! i'm off to get a cup of tea.....* stomps downstairs in foul mood *

:lol:

[Aratron]

man!!
what kind of a reply is this?

****@!! i'm off to get a cup of tea.....* stomps downstairs in foul mood *

listen to your fanbase.

i have money to buy your records.

[davethedrummer]

listen to your fanbase.

i have money to buy your records.

ok thanks man i get your point
and yes i am making some more acid right now as it appens
but thats not the point of this thread
thats all.

[dan the acid man]

yeah keep on topic.

As for the music business looking after their own, it's always happened, and even more so now, i'm sure DJ Magazine struck up a deal to promote this OMID thingy bloke with his record labels or what ever.

Telling everybody he's the best thing since sliced bread and the heards of sheep following just because DJ Magazine said so and it makes them look cool.

[jon connor]

ok thanks man i get your point
and yes i am making some more acid right now as it appens
but thats not the point of this thread
thats all.

ahhhahahahahahah! fuk me henry you are pissed man! aye! listen you are are right they are cluctching at straws because basicaly they have run out of ideas so any new fuked up piece of skinny ass pencil shit track is the new thing ? my asssssssssss ! whole!

listen i worked in ibiza this year and man the shite i heard going on was enough to make you vommit on your own shoe!

hahaha but listen mate if you wanna turn this around and take a possitive outta this henry ive an idea "BRING BACK ACID" Why! i hear you ask wotts the point in somthing thats already been ? well for sum ****ed up reason dance music has done a complete u turn back to the electro then the minimal techno made on fruity loops most tracks taking about 2 hours probably ? absoluty obscenly massive globaly in ibiza it was infected with the stuff last summer . so why not ummmmmm! lets say 2008 brings back the sound of the acid ?

WELL ITS AN IDEA .

Just see it now " THE NEW SOUND HAHAHAHAHAHAH!

"FECK OFF AV SUM OF DIS YOU TURDS"

[koma]

lol, all that hype around Omid is really useless, all the house heads i know dont think much of him. it might work with the sheeps though.

dave, thank god you havent been reading billboard lately. one of their editors recently wrote the biggest things happening to electronic scene in 2007 were Tiesto and the return of house music. lol lol loooool.

f*ck em all, these magazines are all losing their credibility fast, if there is any anymore.

[digitalboy]

Wax magazine was boss, bring it back.

[Dave Elyzium]

Wax magazine was boss, bring it back.

^^ what he said

[dirty_bass]

my point is:
the music media is really clutching at straws now , trying to keep us blinder and more ignorant than ever before
they are closing ranks, shutting doors, blowing their own very tuneless trumpets and why?
not because they believe in it any more
because they are scared for their jobs and their income
and you know what?


it shows.

Sooooo **** em.
Who wants to be a part of their corporate death sucking, trend following, brown nosing bullshit pot of the blind leading the blind.

Magazines are shite, who cares about them.

They are defunct anyway. Why read record reviews in a poxy dead tree pamphlet when you can hop online and make your own mind up about what you like and want.

The music media is dead.
The corpse is still twitching, but don`t mistake that for anything other than the final tweaks of twilight passing.

Good riddance.

[davethedrummer]

Sooooo **** em.
Who wants to be a part of their corporate death sucking, trend following, brown nosing bullshit pot of the blind leading the blind.

Magazines are shite, who cares about them.

They are defunct anyway. Why read record reviews in a poxy dead tree pamphlet when you can hop online and make your own mind up about what you like and want.

The music media is dead.
The corpse is still twitching, but don`t mistake that for anything other than the final tweaks of twilight passing.

Good riddance.

i know i know..
it's my own stupid fault for looking in the first place
but mags are important dammit!
people read the bloody things ! thats what i'm getting at !
they used to tell at least a portion of the truth , now it's just lies lies lies...

and this is not sour grapes any more , sure i've been pissed off when mags have ignored things ive done presonally , but this whole thing hit me on a different level.

like before where i would think "oh no dj and mixmag will never review our records ever again, the label will suffer etc etc ... "

now i'm thinking "thank god i'm not in THAT magazine !!its just full of crap! "

and thats weird.
thing have definitely changed , the journos just have no shame anymore.

[lunatrick]

it is a bit sad - the industry in the uk is dying on it's arse.....not quite sure why it seems to be going strong in other places?

I mean you expect DJ mag to be a bit better than say mixmag.....but half of the problem is the same dj's have been there for the last 20 years...and kids are all off getting into dubstep or whatever.........the house music industry has become a corporate blandathon....I think it needs to die and then start again....

[MARK ANXIOUS]

yeah i did buy dj mag this month.. i buy every music mag i can find, every month.

and you know what i think? NOTHING has changed, nothing is different to the way it always was. i don't know how many of you know this, but i was the assistant editor of wax magazine after editing a magazine called eternity. as an editor, i had a free reign at eternity, it's what got me into journalism. i was very lucky.

but ever since then, i had to fight tooth and nail to get my point of view across in every magazine i was involved in. wax was a big head f*** and if it was up to the publishers, it would have been a commercial wankfest too. but a few passionate music ppl made it what it was. every single month was a killer effort to get birds off the front cover and proper music in the editorial. BUT we managed it. only just.

you see, to get a mag on the shelves takes alot of business knowledge, alot of money and alot of stuff that has nothing to do with music. so you can only expect it to be a complete nightmare for anyone who is supporting music to be able to write about it without those that control the purse strings knocking them down.

you know the editor of dj used to be my boss @ M8 and i have also done a bit of work for her at DJ and as a person, i think she's great. but musically? well i think she's hampered by the very same problems that the rest of us who care about music are hampered by: sales. money and politics.

anyway, rant over. RE: the dj top 100. well it's simply another case of promotion and marketing. oh and magazine sales. worked quite well for them hasn't it? hehe

[Aratron]

yeah i did buy dj mag this month.. i buy every music mag i can find, every month.

and you know what i think? NOTHING has changed, nothing is different to the way it always was. i don't know how many of you know this, but i was the assistant editor of wax magazine after editing a magazine called eternity. as an editor, i had a free reign at eternity, it's what got me into journalism. i was very lucky.

but ever since then, i had to fight tooth and nail to get my point of view across in every magazine i was involved in. wax was a big head f*** and if it was up to the publishers, it would have been a commercial wankfest too. but a few passionate music ppl made it what it was. every single month was a killer effort to get birds off the front cover and proper music in the editorial. BUT we managed it. only just.

you see, to get a mag on the shelves takes alot of business knowledge, alot of money and alot of stuff that has nothing to do with music. so you can only expect it to be a complete nightmare for anyone who is supporting music to be able to write about it without those that control the purse strings knocking them down.

you know the editor of dj used to be my boss @ M8 and i have also done a bit of work for her at DJ and as a person, i think she's great. but musically? well i think she's hampered by the very same problems that the rest of us who care about music are hampered by: sales. money and politics.

anyway, rant over. RE: the dj top 100. well it's simply another case of promotion and marketing. oh and magazine sales. worked quite well for them hasn't it? hehe

i used to really like M8, thats the only music magazine i used to buy. what happened to it? used to have some good cds with it.

[tocsin]

Hmmmmm. Everyone here has access to the internet and, as a result, access to Soulseek and its chatrooms. Why bother with any pop-industry rags? It's programming so why is there any shock when they try and set a norm?

[Si the Sigh]

That Omid CD was utter shite. I say was, because the CD is no more. I snapped it up and put it on the fire.

Wax Magazine, or Eternity or fu*k off.

These magazines nowadays are full of watered down blinkered shite.

[Martin Dust]

I find that most people who moan about magazine don't actually buy them and why would you if that's how you feel? Magazines are a business and it's ultra competitive, something most people don't take onboard but if you're that pissed off at the lack of coverage - start your own blog and cover what you want.

[dirty_bass]

Obviously magazines are a business, and as the internet stole people away, reader numbers dropped, and competition got more fierce, and content more mainstream to take this into account.
But there is very little out there that supports or pushes forward thinking music in any genre. It`s all pretty commercial.
I used to buy Wax, Deadline, Early Jockey Slut, and even M8 (very briefly before it died on it`s ass), but I don`t buy any regular music mag (although I still get a lot of music tech publications), I just hop on down to Virgin Super Mega Store in the west end and read through the music mags now just to see if anything interesting is being said.
It rarely is. Plus it seems there are less and less magazines supporting electronic music now anyway.