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    yeah i did buy dj mag this month.. i buy every music mag i can find, every month.

    and you know what i think? NOTHING has changed, nothing is different to the way it always was. i don't know how many of you know this, but i was the assistant editor of wax magazine after editing a magazine called eternity. as an editor, i had a free reign at eternity, it's what got me into journalism. i was very lucky.

    but ever since then, i had to fight tooth and nail to get my point of view across in every magazine i was involved in. wax was a big head f*** and if it was up to the publishers, it would have been a commercial wankfest too. but a few passionate music ppl made it what it was. every single month was a killer effort to get birds off the front cover and proper music in the editorial. BUT we managed it. only just.

    you see, to get a mag on the shelves takes alot of business knowledge, alot of money and alot of stuff that has nothing to do with music. so you can only expect it to be a complete nightmare for anyone who is supporting music to be able to write about it without those that control the purse strings knocking them down.

    you know the editor of dj used to be my boss @ M8 and i have also done a bit of work for her at DJ and as a person, i think she's great. but musically? well i think she's hampered by the very same problems that the rest of us who care about music are hampered by: sales. money and politics.

    anyway, rant over. RE: the dj top 100. well it's simply another case of promotion and marketing. oh and magazine sales. worked quite well for them hasn't it? hehe


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    That Omid CD was utter shite. I say was, because the CD is no more. I snapped it up and put it on the fire.

    Wax Magazine, or Eternity or fu*k off.

    These magazines nowadays are full of watered down blinkered shite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MARK EG View Post
    yeah i did buy dj mag this month.. i buy every music mag i can find, every month.

    and you know what i think? NOTHING has changed, nothing is different to the way it always was. i don't know how many of you know this, but i was the assistant editor of wax magazine after editing a magazine called eternity. as an editor, i had a free reign at eternity, it's what got me into journalism. i was very lucky.

    but ever since then, i had to fight tooth and nail to get my point of view across in every magazine i was involved in. wax was a big head f*** and if it was up to the publishers, it would have been a commercial wankfest too. but a few passionate music ppl made it what it was. every single month was a killer effort to get birds off the front cover and proper music in the editorial. BUT we managed it. only just.

    you see, to get a mag on the shelves takes alot of business knowledge, alot of money and alot of stuff that has nothing to do with music. so you can only expect it to be a complete nightmare for anyone who is supporting music to be able to write about it without those that control the purse strings knocking them down.

    you know the editor of dj used to be my boss @ M8 and i have also done a bit of work for her at DJ and as a person, i think she's great. but musically? well i think she's hampered by the very same problems that the rest of us who care about music are hampered by: sales. money and politics.

    anyway, rant over. RE: the dj top 100. well it's simply another case of promotion and marketing. oh and magazine sales. worked quite well for them hasn't it? hehe

    i used to really like M8, thats the only music magazine i used to buy. what happened to it? used to have some good cds with it.

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    thank you mark
    we needed to hear what you have to say about this issue.
    it's interesting your point about fighting to get decent music covered , and the toss up you have to make between commercial sales and underground music, i can understand the difficulty each decision must present.
    i'll just go back to reading golf punk instead for the time being.

    for the record M8 is/was ( is it dead?) the worst mag for birds on the cover, period!
    and inside too....jesus it was a tit fest!!! not that i'm complaining mind
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    I find that most people who moan about magazine don't actually buy them and why would you if that's how you feel? Magazines are a business and it's ultra competitive, something most people don't take onboard but if you're that pissed off at the lack of coverage - start your own blog and cover what you want.

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    Obviously magazines are a business, and as the internet stole people away, reader numbers dropped, and competition got more fierce, and content more mainstream to take this into account.
    But there is very little out there that supports or pushes forward thinking music in any genre. It`s all pretty commercial.
    I used to buy Wax, Deadline, Early Jockey Slut, and even M8 (very briefly before it died on it`s ass), but I don`t buy any regular music mag (although I still get a lot of music tech publications), I just hop on down to Virgin Super Mega Store in the west end and read through the music mags now just to see if anything interesting is being said.
    It rarely is. Plus it seems there are less and less magazines supporting electronic music now anyway.
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    if the music scene was reflected in the news stands then we may as well all sell our decks but if the music scene is reflected from my record collection then im still wetting myself with excitement and jumping around like a looney bum flap.

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    The NME is a better example of this kinda thing

    whats peoples opinion of the NME?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDR View Post
    The NME is a better example of this kinda thing

    whats peoples opinion of the NME?
    used to be a good mag for indie now its just all about the latest hype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDR View Post
    The NME is a better example of this kinda thing

    whats peoples opinion of the NME?
    It was ok, started getting worse in 96-97, then just spiraled down into full hype bullshit.
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    the only ever decent mag was Eternity

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    actually omid 16b is a quite good artist, and alola (his label) had big influence during the years
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    http://www.discogs.com/artist/16B
    http://www.myspace.com/omid16b

    no thank you

    i will stay in undeground

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    look at everything in the music industry.- it's all corperate wank in my opnion. MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY. forget about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clubsynthetic View Post
    look at everything in the music industry.- it's all corperate wank in my opnion. MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY. forget about it.
    thats the nature of every industry, otherise it would be charity.. people gotta make money, people gotta eat. and anyone who does any work (whether it falls in line with your personal ideology or not) deserves payment of some sort for it.

    i like making money.. admitadly im no corporate whore but ive no problem doing what needs doing for a few quid.

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    can you make a difference between commercial music, and good pop music?

    in other words, can you tell the difference between christina augilera and gorillaz?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhythmtech View Post
    thats the nature of every industry, otherise it would be charity.. people gotta make money, people gotta eat. and anyone who does any work (whether it falls in line with your personal ideology or not) deserves payment of some sort for it.

    i like making money.. admitadly im no corporate whore but ive no problem doing what needs doing for a few quid.
    Yes, this is true. But if you worry about something like DJ magazines then you'll give youself a heart attack in the end. Its not worth it.

    a lost cause.

    as someone pointed out - start a blog...even on your MYSPACE. sooner or later people will see it/listen to it. let them decide.

    have faith man music is beyond that pish IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clubsynthetic View Post
    if you worry about something like DJ magazines then you'll give youself a heart attack in the end. Its not worth it.
    yup

    best of sticking to fiction like "the sun".. at least they show nipples

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuuku View Post
    can you make a difference between commercial music, and good pop music?

    in other words, can you tell the difference between christina augilera and gorillaz?
    yes. one has the word "good" before it.

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    really funny?
    So. Behind their eyes the hope in them was sickening, and in many, dead. They lived from event to event with a subtle terror of the gap between, filling up their lives with distractions to avoid the emptiness where curiosity should have been, and breathing a gasp of relief when the children passed the point of asking questions about what life was for.

 

 
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