Dj Mag Who Do They Think They Are?????

[clubsynthetic]

not really. but i don't really see much difference tbh.

[Lag]

so, u dont see a difference between some chick singing half naked about love, sex and other crowdpleasers, and a band with an idea, concept, a team of really tallented people who are working on those things, and a shitload of really well thought out lyrics to back it all up (not to mention the everpresent melancholy wich isnt quite the top seller, isnt it)?

[RDR]

so, u dont see a difference between some chick singing half naked about love, sex and other crowdpleasers, and a band with an idea, concept, a team of really tallented people who are working on those things, and a shitload of really well thought out lyrics to back it all up (not to mention the everpresent melancholy wich isnt quite the top seller, isnt it)?

Things are rarely that clear cut.

[RDR]

yes. one has the word "good" before it.

Christine is a fantastic singer, damon albarn has a name which could be re-arranged into the phrase O DAMN ALBRAN

[rhythmtech]

i can see where ryuuku is coming from. but i think possibly naming aguilera is wrong.

shes been in the industry a while, has, i have to admit, got an amazing voice (if a little dramatic for my tastes) and has proven staying power. fair enough she's had a few duffers but then she's had a few really good pop songs (im in no way a fan of her though (cept her ass!))

but i do see his point. gorillaz are a differant kettle of fish that fits into his idea of "good" music - which is similiar to mine. when i think of good pop music i think blur, roses, ride, the cure etc. all bands with (a certain amount of) integrity.

but like everything else, musical taste is subjective.

[Si the Sigh]

the only ever decent mag was Eternity

...until it went a bit too "off the wall" and wacky with it's spiritual and religious bullshit. :)

Then Wax Magazine came along, and IMO was the best music magazine EVER.

I still have, and still regularly read all my old issues.

[force]

The dance scene wouldnt be what it is today without the commitment and passion of people like Omid16B. Whether its creating dance floor destroyers or rocking each and every party, Omid16B is the heart and soul of the underground.

From omid16b's myspace!!!!

What a cock!

And yeah, magazines. I used to buy loads of them but stopped years ago cos they turned to complete wank.

Still got me copies of mixmag and Muzic with the london acid crew in though.

[TechMouse]

Who the fuck is OM1D16B?

I've never heard of him. Sounds like a numberplate.

Perhaps he's related to someone on the DJ Mag staff or something.

Years ago I went to the Breakspoll awards and got introduced to some guy from Mixmag. No word of a lie, he looked about 13. He had more acne than everyone else in the room put together. Suddenly lots of stuff made sense.

Commercial music press in "a bit shit" shocker.

Next we'll be discussing how FHM seems much more immature than it used to back when we were teenagers too embarrassed to buy proper porn.

[Darkmode]

Who the fuck is OM1D16B?

I've never heard of him. Sounds like a numberplate.

Perhaps he's related to someone on the DJ Mag staff or something.

Years ago I went to the Breakspoll awards and got introduced to some guy from Mixmag. No word of a lie, he looked about 13. He had more acne than everyone else in the room put together. Suddenly lots of stuff made sense.

Commercial music press in "a bit shit" shocker.

Next we'll be discussing how FHM seems much more immature than it used to back when we were teenagers too embarrassed to buy proper porn.

I wouldn't be susprised if that kid didn't have a clue about Electronic music or the scene in genral if you know what I mean?

[Lag]

i can see where ryuuku is coming from. but i think possibly naming aguilera is wrong.

shes been in the industry a while, has, i have to admit, got an amazing voice (if a little dramatic for my tastes) and has proven staying power. fair enough she's had a few duffers but then she's had a few really good pop songs (im in no way a fan of her though (cept her ass!))

you got it wrong
one is almost pure business (money comes first, music second) and the other is more about music and idea and art.
christina is cheesy as fcuk. she can be as hard working as much as she wants, but all her songs are about love, sex and parties. the only one thats not about one of those three is "beutiful" which is the queen of cheese.

all this blah blah by me is to make this point: you guys cant make a difference between someone who is making a funky song because he knows it will sell, and someone who is making a funky song because thats how hes feeling, because hes inspired to do so at the moment, because hes got an idea and funky is the way to express it.
when u hear funky you will go "COMMERCIAL CRAP OMFG" (unless its techno, ofcourse, because its got the BOOM BOOM so it makes it ok)

so, what we have here is a bunch of totally biased people talking about music. u cant even see the difference between cheese and honest music, which is normal for someone whos not into music but i really didnt expect it from u guys.

ill give you an example of how this looks like: you all like detroit techno, right? i mean, atleast you force yourself to like it because it is known to be good (after seein the comments on this topic im not sure which one of these two it is).
SO, u got a bunch of guys who have been doing it right for over 20 years now, and 90% of that material is great, has got soul, is dancable etc etc - BUT NO MARKETING! most of the people dont know about jeff mills, dj bone, carl craig, juan atkins etc etc. so what u got is some businessmen who see the potential. they imitate those tracks, market it end sell it in millions. those tracks dont have any soul, the quantised kick/snare/hat combo is all the rythm it gets but its there and people know about it.
so, i played dj q - we are one (carl craig remix) to my gf the other day and she said "this sounds very commercial to me".

omid is a great artist. i actually got into EDM cause of global underground 20 (darren emerson @ singapore) which was a shitload of tech house. one of the tracks is some 16b remix which grew to be my fav track on the release. the whole mix instantly and permanently blew me away and i still enjoy it quite a lot. the only reason im not playing this kind of music now is cause somebody told me that gu20 is prog house so ive been looking in all the wrong places, and i somehow ended up in techno.

[dirty_bass]

i can see where ryuuku is coming from. but i think possibly naming aguilera is wrong.

shes been in the industry a while, has, i have to admit, got an amazing voice (if a little dramatic for my tastes) and has proven staying power. fair enough she's had a few duffers but then she's had a few really good pop songs (im in no way a fan of her though (cept her ass!))

but i do see his point. gorillaz are a differant kettle of fish that fits into his idea of "good" music - which is similiar to mine. when i think of good pop music i think blur, roses, ride, the cure etc. all bands with (a certain amount of) integrity.

but like everything else, musical taste is subjective.

I`ve got some aguilera acapellas straight off the desk from some of her recordings, and she is by no means a great singer.

Average I would say.

Amazing what you can do with melodyne though.

Still has been involved in some good commerical pop shite though.

[dirty_bass]

you got it wrong
one is almost pure business (money comes first, music second) and the other is more about music and idea and art.
christina is cheesy as fcuk. she can be as hard working as much as she wants, but all her songs are about love, sex and parties. the only one thats not about one of those three is "beutiful" which is the queen of cheese.

all this blah blah by me is to make this point: you guys cant make a difference between someone who is making a funky song because he knows it will sell, and someone who is making a funky song because thats how hes feeling, because hes inspired to do so at the moment, because hes got an idea and funky is the way to express it.
when u hear funky you will go "COMMERCIAL CRAP OMFG" (unless its techno, ofcourse, because its got the BOOM BOOM so it makes it ok)

so, what we have here is a bunch of totally biased people talking about music. u cant even see the difference between cheese and honest music, which is normal for someone whos not into music but i really didnt expect it from u guys.

ill give you an example of how this looks like: you all like detroit techno, right? i mean, atleast you force yourself to like it because it is known to be good (after seein the comments on this topic im not sure which one of these two it is).
SO, u got a bunch of guys who have been doing it right for over 20 years now, and 90% of that material is great, has got soul, is dancable etc etc - BUT NO MARKETING! most of the people dont know about jeff mills, dj bone, carl craig, juan atkins etc etc. so what u got is some businessmen who see the potential. they imitate those tracks, market it end sell it in millions. those tracks dont have any soul, the quantised kick/snare/hat combo is all the rythm it gets but its there and people know about it.
so, i played dj q - we are one (carl craig remix) to my gf the other day and she said "this sounds very commercial to me".

omid is a great artist. i actually got into EDM cause of global underground 20 (darren emerson @ singapore) which was a shitload of tech house. one of the tracks is some 16b remix which grew to be my fav track on the release. the whole mix instantly and permanently blew me away and i still enjoy it quite a lot. the only reason im not playing this kind of music now is cause somebody told me that gu20 is prog house so ive been looking in all the wrong places, and i somehow ended up in techno.

I agree with all that.

Music is music and there is more to it than techno.
And I think Omid actually does make some pretty creative and passionate house and tech house. It`s got soul without being too obvious and cheesy.
Good stuff if you like that sort of thing.
However, the DJ Mag feature is probably more to do with him being in the Soho set and involved with the Mr C clique.
I believe DJ mag has it`s offices in soho, I could be wrong.

[jon connor]

ok thanks man i get your point
and yes i am making some more acid right now as it appens
but thats not the point of this thread
thats all.

ahhhahahahahahah! fuk me henry you are pissed man! aye! listen you are are right they are cluctching at straws because basicaly they have run out of ideas so any new fuked up piece of skinny ass pencil shit track is the new thing ? my asssssssssss ! whole!

listen i worked in ibiza this year and man the shite i heard going on was enough to make you vommit on your own shoe!

hahaha but listen mate if you wanna turn this around and take a possitive outta this henry ive an idea "BRING BACK ACID" Why! i hear you ask wotts the point in somthing thats already been ? well for sum ****ed up reason dance music has done a complete u turn back to the electro then the minimal techno made on fruity loops most tracks taking about 2 hours probably ? absoluty obscenly massive globaly in ibiza it was infected with the stuff last summer . so why not ummmmmm! lets say 2008 brings back the sound of the acid ?

WELL ITS AN IDEA .

Just see it now " THE NEW SOUND HAHAHAHAHAHAH!

"FECK OFF AV SUM OF DIS YOU TURDS"

[clubsynthetic]

unleash the Acid-folk-step-tek on there ears. freeeeeeeeeeeesh.

[jon connor]

15 CANS OF STELLA! WOOO!


AYe! how many cans of stella you guys consuming these days ?

[BloodStar]

stella is shite

[Lag]

However, the DJ Mag feature is probably more to do with him being in the Soho set and involved with the Mr C clique.
I believe DJ mag has it`s offices in soho, I could be wrong.

i was only defending 16b the whole time.
wasnt speaking about dj mag at all, even though I HAS TEH RAR3 SPECIAL ABILITIEH 2 B OBJECT1VE!!!11 so i can see why they do what they do and its only natural (ie its only business/money).

heres a pic to lighten things up

[Francisco Scaramanga]

Dont know who this numberplate fellow is but he sounds crap, anyway we stock DJ mag where I work so I usually have a browse at breaktimes and stuff, and just today I was flipping through their top 50 remixers of all time list, utterly horrified at the very idea of it nevermind the choices, then I got to number one who was Carl Craig, and was totally shocked that they had the decency to put someone whos actually good at number one. But despite that it is a pretty despicable publication, and I almost hate it as much as mixmag.

[tocsin]

Hmmmmm. Everyone here has access to the internet and, as a result, access to Soulseek and its chatrooms. Why bother with any pop-industry rags? It's programming so why is there any shock when they try and set a norm?

[koma]

LEAVE OMID16B ALONE!

:P

ps. Ryuuku, more pics please.