roland mc-909 ???

[massplanck]

Also. Its funny how people say "it doesnt matter what you use" then say "use abelton" when hardware gets mentioned... just because they couldnt figure out the RM1X or whatever!

dismissing hardware = dismissing a lot of amazing techno music that was made with it, limitations & all.

[acidsaturation]

dismissing hardware = dismissing a lot of amazing techno music that was made with it, limitations & all.

:clap:

[tocsin]

Also. Its funny how people say "it doesnt matter what you use" then say "use abelton" when hardware gets mentioned... just because they couldnt figure out the RM1X or whatever!

dismissing hardware = dismissing a lot of amazing techno music that was made with it, limitations & all.

I think it's fair to lean towards software when giving "advice" nowadays based on affordability and range. Fact is, you can't pirate hardware and you're limited in what can be done with it. To expand your sound with hardware setups tends to require buying more hardware. Doesn't have to be a knock on hardware though.

Personally, I've done hybrid deals probably more than anything else, often involving an MC-303. The sequencer on it is basic and easy to use. None of the knobs send MIDI data though so it's REALLY limited in how basic it is. For the MC-909, I've messed with one and, in my opinion, it isn't worth the cash.

If the goal is to be able to do anything, owning a "techno in a box" tool isn't necesarilly a bad idea. Even the MC-303 has some decent sounds when run through some distortion. But, it is basically a glorified sampler at that point. I've used it's sequencer to trigger internal sounds run through a wah and distortion pedal, while also using it to trigger/sequence VSTi/DXis. I think one could probably find something just as useful as an MC-909 in that regards, but also cheaper.

For the record, software nazis are just as bad as hardware nazis, who used to drive me up a wall back in 1997. What I find kind of amusing is a solid majority of people who were hardware nazis back then are software nazis now. Fact is, if one has only toyed with something, or never done more than hear someone talk about it, one shouldn't give advice on it. They're doing nobody any service with that and become rather transparent to those of us who have used various pieces.

[RDR]

Also. Its funny how people say "it doesnt matter what you use" then say "use abelton" when hardware gets mentioned... just because they couldnt figure out the RM1X or whatever!

dismissing hardware = dismissing a lot of amazing techno music that was made with it, limitations & all.

Hope you dont mean me, i owned 2 RM1x's and an RS7000 we used in our live set.

I liked em both but needed to do things the RM1x and Rs just werent capable of.

[massplanck]

I liked em both but needed to do things the RM1x and Rs just werent capable of.

I agree. The RS is not great for sequencing full songs the way I want to.. (i'll admit that db).. and tbh you need to have something running along side it like a virus or electribe to bypass that whole "techno in a box" sound. But NOTHING beats it for being instantly creative & fast to work with & I CAN get amazing sounds out of it. Its so horrible for me to program beats and record myself going nuts in abelton. HORRIBLE! To advise someone to try out software first could completly turn a person who is half decent at making music into a nervous wreck and vice versa.

So in future, If someone wants to buy a piece of hardware please let them go full steam ahead.