How long would it take me to learn ableton?

[RDR]

You can do everything like in other DAWs

sorry man, thats not true.

there's LOADS of things missing from it.

ill give you one.

In place editing.

[BloodStar]

sorry man, thats not true.

there's LOADS of things missing from it.

ill give you one.

In place editing.

What you mean by In place editing?

[RDR]

What you mean by In place editing?

I pro tools or logic or cubase you can right click on any part and edit it right there with cut copy, paste or any other editor type tools.

ableton has to use an external editing program to achieve this.

[BloodStar]

I pro tools or logic or cubase you can right click on any part and edit it right there with cut copy, paste or any other editor type tools.
ableton has to use an external editing program to achieve this.

Yeah, that's true. Ableton lacks in this area, but still some things can be done, but in bit more complicated way. hopefully they will improve it, one day..

[mattboyslim]

I pro tools or logic or cubase you can right click on any part and edit it right there with cut copy, paste or any other editor type tools.

ableton has to use an external editing program to achieve this.

there isn't much you can't do with clips in ableton, that you can do in other programs. The clip options are still there, its just a different way of working

[dirty_bass]

I know K90 used to be all dat, I saw him from backstage miming before, so I know he`s been a faker, wether or not he still does I don`t know.

Faking is rife in the trance scene though.

[stjohn]

id say the bitstream would take longer than Ableton!! millions of buttons!!

[Jay Pace]

Shiva, you are ace.

take the day off!

[djshiva]

Shiva, you are ace.

take the day off!

haha! i seem to have every day off these days (unemployed), so i have lots of time to play in ableton and to write long-winded explanations of how to play in ableton as well. ;)

[RDR]

haha! i seem to have every day off these days (unemployed), so i have lots of time to play in ableton and to write long-winded explanations of how to play in ableton as well. ;)

And we are VERY grateful for your status!

cheers gal!

[tonyc2002]

I have been using Ableton since version 4 and absolutely love it for mixing (although I have not done this live....yet) as well as producing. The only thing I have not really explored is the groove options but its something I really want to learn more about. In fact, I may start a thread on it haha.

[module]

Ableton users - how easy to master is this program?

I want start working on a liveset, and I'd like to know how to dj with it.

I've never really taken the time to look at it and I have no real idea how it works.

Was going to buy a bitsream controller to use with it. Looks the business - any thoughts?

how long is a piece of string ?

best bet is to call round to see a few users muck about at home with it tbh

i been using it almost 2 years now (i think) but NEVER made a track with it..

[massplanck]

how long is a piece of string ?
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The distance between its two ends.

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[module]

The distance between its two ends.

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not neccasarily.. is that spelt right ?

[supergroover]

what do you guys mean when you say PA? you mean a live show in stead of djing?
PA only means public address: the speakers that are directed towards the public.
Unless you mean a different PA ;)

On topic: i think you ll learn quickly considering you already are familiar with reason and cubase.

[Barely Human]

what do you guys mean when you say PA? you mean a live show in stead of djing?
PA only means public address: the speakers that are directed towards the public.
Unless you mean a different PA ;)

On topic: i think you ll learn quickly considering you already are familiar with reason and cubase.

Pa is the correct term for a live performance. PA can mean many things, but in this context it usualy stands for Personal Apperance or Performance Artist.

See wikipedia for more info - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_PA

[TechMouse]

Pa is the correct term for a live performance. PA can mean many things, but in this context it usualy stands for Personal Apperance or Performance Artist.

See wikipedia for more info - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_PA

I always assumed it was just shorthand for "playing live over a PA".

You learn something new every day...

[tocsin]

Ableton users - how easy to master is this program?

I want start working on a liveset, and I'd like to know how to dj with it.

I've never really taken the time to look at it and I have no real idea how it works.

Was going to buy a bitsream controller to use with it. Looks the business - any thoughts?

I guess "mastering" is entirely subjective and may take some time. But, as for use, I'd say fairly easy if you are comfortable with software for music in general. The first time I ever used it was for a part in a live PA. I created my soundbank with it on the drive to the venue from the passenger seat, having never opened it before. Now, I was using it for something very basic there, but I think you can catch the drift. I don't use Ableton a lot. Generally, the only time I use it is when I'm working with others who use Ableton. But, it was definitely coded with user friendliness in mind. I've never looked at a manual for the thing and figured out how to get it to do what I wanted it to do. So, basically, if it's something you want to work with, chances are you'll be able to make it work.

[Jay Pace]

Cheers tocsin, was hoping for that answer