Whats Gwarn?

[eyeswithoutaface]

i dont think its fair to blame mp3 as it where, if mp3 hadnt came along it would only be another format, and like mentioned something will come along one day that brushes mp3 firmly under the carpet.

shit music is basically shit music, regardless of its format. If its badly produced, then wether you put it on CD, Vinyl, Mp3 or carve the music into a ****ing slate and play the grooves with an elaborate pickup fashioned out of the hair off a swans neck, it's still going to sound badly produced.

techno suffers from a condition widely known as "i need to sound like the people i admire" syndrome. There are definately too many people trying to sound like people they admire, which ends up with a pool of records that all sound similiar without adding their own personality along the way. Sure everyone needs a starting point, but the trouble is, alot of people dont seem to have a middle point, and certainly dont have their own unique end point.

It can be tough, but like Masswank said, the current state of the scene is acting like a natural shit filter. Nowadays less and less will the distributors take music of producers, established or not, if it's badly produced or really too generic because the small window they had for taking chances has gotten so small that the builders have came round in the night and bricked the ****ing thing in. People have been forced in a round about way to improve their overall production and what they are offering, which is a great thing, as pointed out, there is alot more shit NOT making it to vinyl these days .

If you've got your own cash to throw around, then its a different story of course, it's quite easy to actually get a record pressed and out there, which is why alot of labels about maybe dont have the best quality overall, because peoples definition of quality differ wildly, and with things like ego coming into play, well, sometimes people are blinded by their own dream as it were

i dunno, its a good thing to think about, but there are still always amazing records being released, by amazing producers, so maybe its a little quick to just dismiss the whole genre for a quiet period?

anyway its ok Calvin, ive got a good new track coming out next month, everything is going to be just fine

[Aratron]

i dont think its fair to blame mp3 as it where, if mp3 hadnt came along it would only be another format, and like mentioned something will come along one day that brushes mp3 firmly under the carpet.

shit music is basically shit music, regardless of its format. If its badly produced, then wether you put it on CD, Vinyl, Mp3 or carve the music into a ****ing slate and play the grooves with an elaborate pickup fashioned out of the hair off a swans neck, it's still going to sound badly produced.

techno suffers from a condition widely known as "i need to sound like the people i admire" syndrome. There are definately too many people trying to sound like people they admire, which ends up with a pool of records that all sound similiar without adding their own personality along the way. Sure everyone needs a starting point, but the trouble is, alot of people dont seem to have a middle point, and certainly dont have their own unique end point.

It can be tough, but like Masswank said, the current state of the scene is acting like a natural shit filter. Nowadays less and less will the distributors take music of producers, established or not, if it's badly produced or really too generic because the small window they had for taking chances has gotten so small that the builders have came round in the night and bricked the ****ing thing in. People have been forced in a round about way to improve their overall production and what they are offering, which is a great thing, as pointed out, there is alot more shit NOT making it to vinyl these days .

If you've got your own cash to throw around, then its a different story of course, it's quite easy to actually get a record pressed and out there, which is why alot of labels about maybe dont have the best quality overall, because peoples definition of quality differ wildly, and with things like ego coming into play, well, sometimes people are blinded by their own dream as it were

i dunno, its a good thing to think about, but there are still always amazing records being released, by amazing producers, so maybe its a little quick to just dismiss the whole genre for a quiet period?

anyway its ok Calvin, ive got a good new track coming out next month, everything is going to be just fine

good im after some nice techno to go with steve stoll stuff i've got.
seen a nice chris liebling record out, but not much else though.

[...Dave...]

@ aratron.

stop looking at all the bullshit london sounding energy techno tosh and you will find quality

there hasn't been anything decent for years with that lot

[Aratron]

@ aratron.

stop looking at all the bullshit london sounding energy techno tosh and you will find quality

there hasn't been anything decent for years with that lot

i know thats why im mixing steve stool with pouinding grooves these days. watch out, sounds ****ing mint.

[RDR]

steve stool

Excrement techno.

[...Dave...]

Excrement techno.

:lol:

[Aratron]

Excrement techno.

steve stool :lol: i dont really mean that, im pretty obsessed with him at the mo.