Pioneer CDJ vs Denon DN-S

[DJCraig Ryan]

the Denons are better decks by far and have more features,
but you're probably better off getting the Pioneer because they are the ones you'll end up using in clubs.

If you're planning to buy 2 decks, I'd buy one of each. A Pioneer so you are familiar with them when you play in clubs and a Denon, simply because they're better.

If you don't play in clubs ever, get 2 Denons.

If denons are better, why are pioneers club standard?

[TechMouse]

No not at all, but me reaching behind the mixer to plug it in whilst the prior DJ is in the middle of their set is.

I have seen it done, needles jump, speakers pop etc. Its not fair on the DJ before you to do that. Sure some clubs may have a nice easy ability to do it, but not many I am sure.

All valid points, but all easily overcome with a bit of planning and forethought.

And beatmatching on CDJ's is easy enough as it is, but moving onto using something like live which does all the tempo for you (which can obviously bring some great posibilities) would just be too easy / not as fun.

I think you'd be surprised. I've been having loads of fun jamming 3, 4, even 5 tunes together and adding my own loops, using effects and stuff. It's just a different take on it.

I somehow feel we've lost our way a bit. DJing has become more about the ever-mystical art of keeping spinning plastic discs in sync, and less about the music. It's just a motor skill, and ultimately a motor skill that anyone who can count to 4 can learn.

Tune selection, set progression, interesting mixing - these are the things that put a good DJ head and shoulders above the rest. Not how great their beatmatching is.

If denons are better, why are pioneers club standard?

Pioneer got to market first and ended up installed in all the big clubs first.

In fairness, Vestax make technically superior decks, but Technics got the market share first.

On a personal level I'm more comfortable with Technics, but there's no denying that Vestax are great machines.

[RDR]

All valid points, but all easily overcome with a bit of planning and forethought.


I think you'd be surprised. I've been having loads of fun jamming 3, 4, even 5 tunes together and adding my own loops, using effects and stuff. It's just a different take on it.

I somehow feel we've lost our way a bit. DJing has become more about the ever-mystical art of keeping spinning plastic discs in sync, and less about the music. It's just a motor skill, and ultimately a motor skill that anyone who can count to 4 can learn.

Tune selection, set progression, interesting mixing - these are the things that put a good DJ head and shoulders above the rest. Not how great their beatmatching is.


Pioneer got to market first and ended up installed in all the big clubs first.

In fairness, Vestax make technically superior decks, but Technics got the market share first.

On a personal level I'm more comfortable with Technics, but there's no denying that Vestax are great machines.

Try getting vestax repaired and its a different matter all togther.

The days of beatmatching are over really. i agree with that, unless you're there to watch the DJ skill you came to watch is all about beat matching. which its not .

I wonder how many people still want to watch a DJ hovering over a laptop rather than on the decks as in the orbit people hanging over the DJ booth just watching...

bloody vinyl voyeurs!