Techno is changing?

[Komplex]

and a great album too. that was cari lekebusch no?

[slavestudios]

Problem is, most of the hard stuff just is becoming a noise.

BRING IT ON


i think sonic manipulation will replace melody & harmony in certain areas & i for one cant wait.

go check out NIN 'fixed' and tell me it doesnt make u shiver

[SlavikSvensk]

and a great album too. that was cari lekebusch no?

sure was!

[romelpotter]

I love the meanest techno possible but it has to do stuff. a four bar MMEEAN loop for 5 mins just doesn't do it for me,. can you have mean and melodic in the same sentence. :?:

[The Overfiend]

You either want to bang your head like an 18 year old or
you want to bang your head to good music.

It's like the difference between Schranz and Proper Techno.

[wenna]

i'm really liking funk d void at the moment, maybe he's onto something........

[herman]

oh yeah paul macs "push came to shove" has some great synths that i cant stop listening to.

yeah thats a great album that every home should have one ;)

[basslinejunkie]

exactly s.o.s. i love being pounded in2 the floor dont get me wrong,but not just mindless boom boom boom 4 5 mins,it has 2 have summit about it also.proper techno as u said.

[killarava2day]

oh yeah paul macs "push came to shove" has some great synths that i cant stop listening to.

yeah thats a great album that every home should have one ;)

Are you on extended vacations or something. Anything up coming?

[Ritzi Lee]

Techno is changing constantly.
So what. It's a choice.
And it's positive...
The main goal for techno is constant evolvement..

[The Overfiend]

The main goal for techno is constant evolvement..

:clap:

[slavestudios]

well, its part of the word 'technology' so i always assumed that techno wasd about constantly movin forward both in sound & the menas by which that sound is made


http://www.perpetualelectronic.co.uk/

http://www.club-nut.co.uk/audio/Pete...ober%2003).mp3

[herman]

oh yeah paul macs "push came to shove" has some great synths that i cant stop listening to.

yeah thats a great album that every home should have one ;)

Are you on extended vacations or something. Anything up coming?

been working on a new album for the past few weeks but there is some stuff forth coming on ingoma,stimulus,primevil,primate and vince watson's new label.

[Stuart]

i know exactly what u mean stu.ive heard alot of techno recently thats just hard 4 the sake of being hard if that makes sense.dare i say it even sum of glenn wilsons recent stuff i havent been 2 keen on,but like u say techno is changing as it always does so maybe this is just a phase.

I was going through a load of new stuff that I've just got. All the production and everything as always is really high quality apart from the flimsy plastic from europe (which are obviously pressed cheaply) which means end production quality is poor, so sound definition is lost making noisy tracks quite unbearable to those people just discovering the techno scene.
As you say stuff is just hard for the sake of being hard, people need to take the quantity to quality ratio in to consideration and produce fewer tracks rather than churning them out.

One question though. Have you noticed there are alot of tracks coming out that has far to much hiss in it?

[The Overfiend]

oh yeah paul macs "push came to shove" has some great synths that i cant stop listening to.

yeah thats a great album that every home should have one ;)

Are you on extended vacations or something. Anything up coming?

been working on a new album for the past few weeks but there is some stuff forth coming on ingoma,stimulus,primevil,primate and vince watson's new label.

Would I be wrong in Assuming this is Paul Mac? If so
Cards On the Table
f*ckin Kicked Ass!

[herman]

oh yeah paul macs "push came to shove" has some great synths that i cant stop listening to.

yeah thats a great album that every home should have one ;)

Are you on extended vacations or something. Anything up coming?

been working on a new album for the past few weeks but there is some stuff forth coming on ingoma,stimulus,primevil,primate and vince watson's new label.

Would I be wrong in Assuming this is Paul Mac? If so
Cards On the Table
f*ckin Kicked Ass!

thanks appreciated

[MARKEG]

you're right. it rocked.

[davethedrummer]

F*******ck the distributors... they only want what sells...



there are not many true underground distributors out there...



i agree... ruskin etc use gr8 melodies... but they are always strings... not synths.... use synths and it becomes retro??? i dunno... someone name me a techno producer that uses SYNTH melodies....
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i've heard synths on hundreds of techno records from adam beyer to marco bailey to jeff mills to just about anyone else.

no i think you mean the "type" of melody you use no necessarily whether it come from a synth or not "synth" is bit general a term to use i think.
i mean sythns make all kinds of weird noises these days don't they?

don't mean to split hairs here but i'm determined to get some synths back into techno

just been listening to lot's of fcomm and youngsters stuff

very techno influenced and really deep too
i'm getting into it as the modern percussive sound is leaving me colder and colder these days.

anyway lets just set the record straight here:

melody is not only defined by some horrble cheesy nonsense you hear in commercial music

melody is an integral part of music right down to the atonal harmonics we like in techno today. so there's no reason why it can't be possible to still use synth melodies in techno.imo

just need to look at a slightly bigger picture i guess.

[Dustin Zahn]

Hello everyone. Petar Dundov uses synths with melodies. His tracks kick ass. Check out Stewart Walker's live extracts album. I don't consider that minimal techno...it has really good synth and percussive work. Mr. Paul Mac also shows excellent use of synths as does Marco Carola. There are some other quite poppy acts such as Technasia that do it quite well (from a production stand-point). There's plenty of excellent use of synths out there.

The problem with synths and darker/heavier techno is that the artists often want to shoot for atmosphere rather than a poppy hook, so they use pads and sounds with reverb instead of a hook. Bummer. Bye.

[scienceofuse]

What about Johannes Heil? His "20,000 leagues under the skin" album is filled with groovy melodic synth-lines and his other productions are also very synth-based... But, IMO, there are more straight-up percussive records being pressed than synthy techno with hooks and melodies, simply because the percussive records are more usable - when you mix two synthy tracks there is a bigger possibility of the tunes clashing instead of merging into one... The problem, however, is that if I hear a mix consisting of just percussive, loopy techno, I will probably get bored before the first breakdown. But at least here in Slovenia, there is a tendency for DJs to play only that so most techno here is really all the same, which is a shame as it drives the audience away from parties where only the local DJs are playing, cos everyone knows what to expect... Maybe it's just me, but I always thought that with a good DJ, you should never know what to expect next, right?