ive looked at MAX before but never actually tried to use it

i think il sit down with VVVV over the weekend and try and see if il be able to get to grips with it, ive got Resolume and find that particulary easy to get going with, but VVVV seems alot more complicated at first glance

catch me on msn we'l have a natter about it, im very interested in all of this, ive always loved Grantz Graf and if there was any way of creating visuals similiar (although im not naive, i understand it wouldnt be at that level) then i am very intriuged as to find out how

would also love to see if its possible to sync such visuals with music already produced, like syncing a track of mine to the visuals im doing. Im going to see if it can be done in Resolume tommorow, ive not had a chance to get that in depth yet, any other Resolume users know if thats possible?