Cutting Loops From Other Producers Trax

[massplanck]

tbh sampling kick drums & hits is hardly plagurism in anyones book.

[Jay Pace]

Mylo's album a few years back was almost completely made out of samples of other peoples records.

Copywrite ruled that because they had so little in common with the originals he had effectively made new music, so the samples didn't require clearance.

So I suppose its how you do it. Norman cook's remix of "brim full of asha" was basically exactly the same as the original, but with fatter crunchier drums and a few extra fills.

IT was blatantly a lot better, but I'm sure the royalties when to the original writers, not mr cook. All he did was spice up an original track.

You can do anything you want, sure. If it sounds great, so much the better.

Problem comes when you start making money from copying someone's ideas and presenting them as your own with no credit being paid to the originator.

If you make a killer hook, or riff, or drum fill and someone plonks it in their track to make it sell better then you deserve a cut of their monies.

Its more an issue when people are profiting. Which few people are. I don't think there's any problem in lifting other people's tracks so long as you're not making any coin out of doing it.

[Microdot]

This thread has raised an interesting thought. Sorry to high jack the thread, but it seems like everyone here is quite okay with grabbing someones loop and playing it in a Live PA.

Im curious though, how do you guys feel about sampling entire loops from other peoples records, then add some effects, using it as a foundation of a track, and then re-releasing
it as your own production? I know the foundation of dance music rests on sampling, but where do you draw the line between straight theft, and using it in a creative manner to
remix this into your own track?

There have been times when I’ve heard a nice tune from someone, really wanted to rip it down into a .wav file and re-import it back into Ableton where I will play with the filters and basically just mess it all up until you cant hear any similarities. Yet the only thing that has stopped me from doing this is the sheer guilt I feel about so-called “stealing” from another producer’s works.

Seems like all the die-hards I know look down on sample CD’s and prefer to create everything from scratch, but im curious how everyone here at BOA feels about this topic.

first and foremost. fcuk what anyone else frowns upon.
make good sounds come out of your speakers and enjoy yourself. the rest of it really doesn't matter.
if someone wants to take issue with the way you perform and/or put together your music, that's their look out.

if you wanna take two big fcukin loops from other people's records and drop em together to make a new track, do so.
there's alot of spastics around who will try to tell you what you can and cannot sample and what are or are not acceptable methods of creating music.
ignore them, they're basically fcuking idiots. if they don't like the way you do your shit, they don't have to listen to it.

[massplanck]

there's alot of spastics around who will try to tell you what you can and cannot sample and what are or are not acceptable methods of creating music.
ignore them, they're basically fcuking idiots.

Here comes my Red Seal vs Player Series bootleg.

I reckon I could make a few quid off it.