clones 10 - ooops.. who didnt clear that sample!!!

[RDR]

i can see scotts point.. hawtin really has got the right to stop this..

but for fuks sake.. its clones.. i'd be honoured!!!

maybe hawtin thinks he's mariah carey?

its more probable that if he DID pull it, then commercial reasons were more important than anything.

[Smear]

I personally think none of the Clones recs are very good, but they're free to try and get away with it if they want, and Hawtin and everyone else is free to try and stop them.

The records are proper lowest common denominator fare though, the only one i heard with was the amazing idea of putting a filter/envelope follower on Let Your Body Learn. Even that was pants, haha.

Also, What little money Hawtin's made from Orange/Spastik(If i was to make a wild guess i'd say still only 5 figures over the years) is probably already in the bank, in the current climate he's not likely to make much more from them. I reckon he was just pissed off at having his songs stolen and another name put on them. I would be too.

[JamieBall]

I personally think none of the Clones recs are very good, but they're free to try and get away with it if they want, and Hawtin and everyone else is free to try and stop them.

The records are proper lowest common denominator fare though, the only one i heard with was the amazing idea of putting a filter/envelope follower on Let Your Body Learn. Even that was pants, haha.

Also, What little money Hawtin's made from Orange/Spastik(If i was to make a wild guess i'd say still only 5 figures over the years) is probably already in the bank, in the current climate he's not likely to make much more from them. I reckon he was just pissed off at having his songs stolen and another name put on them. I would be too.

Amen to that.

Clones just plain SUCKS imo. It's people worshipping labels like this that stop things from going anywhere.

Don't even see how they're useful as tools, tbh, couldn't u just mix the originals together ? Are these records for people who cannot mix ? Fair enough if they tore the originals to pieces but they're nothing more than sampled remakes as far as I can tell (which are NEVER as good as the originals). I mean, the name of the label says it all, no ? Clones = Cloning = Copying, plain and simple.

This music has got to be one of the biggest cop-outs I can think of.

If you're making a collage, it surely has to be greater than the sum of its parts?? Evidently this notion has escaped some people....

I don't understand how the label is being referred to as 'mighty' etc, when we started to distro it back in the day I viewed it very much as filler for people who didn't know much about techno. Can't believe it's even still running, tbh, esp if they're been keeping up with their 'winning' formula.

Isn't it wonderful how times change !

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i'm sure hawtin has better to do.. prob a label decision.. maybe.. or distribution possibly ?

AND.. Beatport was giving away a 320 Spastik for about 3 months last year on the promo page.. if he can afford to give it away..

either way, who cares.. make you own f**kin clone & stop playing the same sh*t everyone else has :)

and for the record, Minus_Blah was £9.99 and over in Northern Ireland when it came out.. all stores.. american imports.. over priced & pressed on sh*t vinyl..

now THATS underground ;)