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    Quote Originally Posted by detfella View Post
    who said that? what a load of bull! you think music only started because people made money from it or some one gave them food from a hunt? music is human expression, it dies when we die. that is the bottom line.
    no, thats not what i'm saying at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davethedrummer View Post
    no, thats not what i'm saying at all.
    what were you trying to say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by detfella View Post
    what were you trying to say?
    not what you said thats for sure
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    Music should cost something whatever the format - youre basically buying the right to use / replay someone else's work. There's a difference between an artist choosing to distribute their music for free and someone else making that choice for the artist by uploading whats not theirs.

    Lets face it if youre in the UK and making a living out of techno youre probably doing just that - making a living, not creaming money in left right and centre and wiping your ass with £50 notes

    The original artist deserves some return on their ideas - whatever that re
    turn is (hard cash / promotion etc)

    If you make pies and youre having trouble shifting them then give them away - your choice. If your hungry you dont generally go and steal a pie you buy one. If youre pies taste better than anyone elses around then people will buy your pies........

    Just my thoughts

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    anyone for steak and kidney?

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    Quote Originally Posted by morbid View Post
    There's a difference between an artist choosing to distribute their music for free
    thats exactly what we're talking about here. not illegal downloads.

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    fair enough - I think its 2 sides of the same coin though, the music is still free however you get it and whoever is giving it away.

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    I just think there should be some monetary value to new original music

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    I've just got a fundamentally different view here, since I never have considered, nor will I ever consider, my own artistic creativity my job. And I don't ever want it to be. I got into this sound and culture as a direct result of the h/p scene, where I ran a dial up system based on freedom of information and using technology towards something bigger than the acquisition of personal income. What's funny is, I don't ever remember catching crap from techno artists when BBS's were used to distribute original mod files about how this hurt things. It's utterly bizzarre to me that one artist who charges gives a **** about what ohers do for free inside a free scene.

    One of the coolest things about this thing for me was that there was now the ability for everybody with access to a machine, or other affordable hardware, to make music consisting of multiple instruments and sounds for the same cost, or cheaper, than the price of one good midrange instrument, nevermind the communication abilities that were opened. It helped smash some otherwise economic barriers that prevented people from realising something they enjoyed. Piracy has allowed for the same when it comes to software.

    But, now, because some people have made money, or are relying on making money, with a sound that so many of us have loved and put into, we're supposed to change our ways and not give it away for free if we don't want to? This is peoples' music. It's now become, in a very real way, a newer incarnation of folk music for those of us blessed enough to be part of the world with access to affordable tech. Blaming artists for the downfall of other artists' income sources, simply because they post music on the net for free, is a relatively new excuse. And it's a bogus one. If an artist giving away music for free is so good that they've become a threat to your income, sign them! Though, I just don't know what fantasy land this is where artists who are giving away music for free have had the same promotion and recognition as signed artists, and promoters who are spending dollars on a venue that need door and drink sales are willing to take risks on them.
    Last edited by tocsin; 13-05-2008 at 12:58 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by morbid View Post
    If you make pies and youre having trouble shifting them then give them away - your choice. If your hungry you dont generally go and steal a pie you buy one. If youre pies taste better than anyone elses around then people will buy your pies........
    DAMN - I wish there was a "slsk" for pies, could do with downloading a pork n pickle one - and maybe a steak for later on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davethedrummer View Post
    not what you said thats for sure
    ooooooooooooooooooook....

 

 

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