Should music be given away free?

[koma]

and another thing: many producers are using cracked software and VSTs, riping other people music, using loops from sample cds etc .. to be honest, I dont think they deserve to make a living with that kind of "work"

not all music is art anyway...

[Si the Sigh]

and another thing: many producers are using cracked software and VSTs, riping other people music, using loops from sample cds etc .. to be honest, I dont think they deserve to make a living with that kind of "work"

not all music is art anyway...

Ah man, don't even get me started on that shit.

People moaning about people uploading their tracks to Soulseek, etc, filesharing, causing them to lose money, when they are using cracked copies of programs and VST's to produce and quite happily downloading pirate copies of films, etc.

But hey, thats ok they say, those movie guys make millions...blaa blaa.

IT'S NO DIFFERENT.

Anyway, gone a bit off topic here...

[JamieBall]

But hey, thats ok they say, those movie guys make millions...blaa blaa.

IT'S NO DIFFERENT.

Indeed, but they do make exponentially more than say, your average bread-line techno producer ;-)

You don't hear eminem moaning much about illegal downloads. Or maybe you would, but the walls of his 17 castles are too thick I guess.

The MAIN ISSUE here is techno is VERY underground music, so to lose a few sales can kill a label or artist (not literally, of course) as opposed to being on Warner brothers and only selling 250,000 compared to 500,000.

It'd still be viewed as a failure, it's just it wouldn't be the end of the world (or the end of food for the artist)

[JamieBall]

and another thing: many producers are using cracked software and VSTs, riping other people music, using loops from sample cds etc .. to be honest, I dont think they deserve to make a living with that kind of "work"

not all music is art anyway...

LOL - so, musicians are meant to use the money (which they don't make) from releases (which they can't sell) to buy plugins ?

Oh, the amount of times I've put a 12" back on the shelf knowing that it's been made on cracked software. I tell ya, if I had a fiver for each time that'd happened (I'd have **** all.....)

If you actually open the default MS Windows sounds with a text editor you can scroll around and eventually find an embedded watermark that shows they've been created using a cracked copy of soundforge.

One wonders who actually DOES pay for such programs ?

Also, not that I 'rip off' anyone but to pose a favourite question of mine on this topic - "would you not consider collage a valid form of art?"

[detfella]

and another thing: many producers are using cracked software and VSTs, riping other people music, using loops from sample cds etc .. to be honest, I dont think they deserve to make a living with that kind of "work"

so true