Innovators

**Siege** · 10-09-2008, 06:52 PM

Aphex twin
Square pusher
Venetian snares

**Smear** · 10-09-2008, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by krimewave

regis is in no way, shape or form an innovator.
ruskin as a DJ, maybe, but as a producer - no way.

would also question the inclusion of Glenn Wilson by another poster.
all decent DJs/producers, but not innovators.

some definite innovators are/were:-

Joey Beltram,
Robert Hood,
Cisco,
Steve Poindexter,
Lenny D,
Aphex Twin.

You can't say Regis isn't an innovator but Lenny Dee is! :p

**Microdot** · 11-09-2008, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Smear

You can't say Regis isn't an innovator but Lenny Dee is! :p

Lenny D invented a whole new form of dance music.
can't stand his music myself but facts are facts.

Regis made a good lockgroove once called Speak To Me.

If you call folding up a distribution company while owing several artists and labels alot of money, then I guess Regis is an innovator.

**Smear** · 15-09-2008, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Microdot

If you call folding up a distribution company while owing several artists and labels alot of money, then I guess Regis is an innovator.

Yeah of course, Lenny Dee's never done anything like that!

**clubsynthetic** · 31-07-2008, 01:33 PM

hardly techno, dying punks sounds like drum and bass

**tamobanter** · 31-07-2008, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by clubsynthetic

hardly techno, dying punks sounds like drum and bass

read above...'techno dnb'

thats exactly what it is...

**clubsynthetic** · 31-07-2008, 02:33 PM

do you actually know what techno is? Cos that is not techno

**tamobanter** · 31-07-2008, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by clubsynthetic

do you actually know what techno is? Cos that is not techno

banks...its techno dnb....i'm not debating what techno is...the thread says ''innovaters'' in a techno thread...i gave u some...

course i know what techno is :roll:

just like hellfish and produce release 'hardcore techno'

heres a techno innovater for ye....

dave clarke

:teeth:

**Smear** · 31-07-2008, 02:50 PM

If you exclude Scorn for not being techno then surely Aphex Twin and Leftfield and the like are a bit iffy as well. But in terms of innovation he's up there with anyone that's been mentioned.

**clubsynthetic** · 01-08-2008, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Smear

If you exclude Scorn for not being techno then surely Aphex Twin and Leftfield and the like are a bit iffy as well. But in terms of innovation he's up there with anyone that's been mentioned.

well i own some cracking staight up techno tracks by them both.

If thats the case with scorn 'tho then i would say Milanese

**clubsynthetic** · 07-08-2008, 02:47 PM

speedy j

**DannyBlack** · 07-08-2008, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by clubsynthetic

speedy j

Once up on a time maybe.

**clubsynthetic** · 07-08-2008, 08:54 PM

aye, old and new

**Lag** · 08-08-2008, 07:00 PM

marc arcadipane

**JamieBall** · 08-08-2008, 07:25 PM

Me.

Of course.

I'll whack yer ****in heads in with a ratchet

**Jay Pace** · 08-08-2008, 07:36 PM

Innovators as in people doing something new and original...

Hawtin's past and current contribution is pretty formidable, irrespective of whether or not you like what he's done.

Jerome Hill for me defined a new genre and approach in techno simply through his djing. Combining diverse styles together to make a new sound. Props.

Dave the Drummer made hard techno funky and fun in a way I haven't seen anyone else do.

Booker Shade crossed genre divides and brought new people into the scene, plus helped define a slightly different sound. Only have to look at the hordes of "bookashade" sounding artists to follow to recognise the contributino made there.

Raiden & Offkey crew are doing something genuinely different. New crowds, new sound, new directions. If gabber can be called techno I don't see whats stopping the offkey sound from eventually finding its way into the fold, or being accepted as a sound that straddles genres.

Jeff Mills, despite getting it horribly wrong and falling flat occassionally - involved AV, drama and tension in performance I haven't seen anyone else do. Price of riding on the seat of your pants is falling flat on your face occassionally.

Lots of other people, those guys sprung to mind though.

Most innovators are just doing something new and original with old ideas. Or doing an old idea in a different way and communicating somethign different in the process.

**The Overfiend** · 09-08-2008, 09:02 AM

Dj Sneak

**drift9** · 09-08-2008, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by The Overfiend

Dj Sneak

"you can't hide from your bud"... fckn classic

**The Overfiend** · 09-08-2008, 03:17 PM

Exactly, him Paul Johnson, Cajmere and other chicago cats sure as **** did their fair share to contribute and bring something new and original to the table.

**clubsynthetic** · 10-08-2008, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by The Overfiend

Exactly, him Paul Johnson, Cajmere and other chicago cats sure as **** did their fair share to contribute and bring something new and original to the table.

I can appreciate those grooves. I would probably play some of that dj sneak/cajmere shit under my guise "sexual chocolate"

paul johnson's "overload 2000", "summer heat" and "bump talking" are sweet choons,, aye he has some nice key changes to his work.

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