i know people have said that about illogik, farley, harry diamond...

but the illogik tune is a remix by guy mcaffer and is nothing like the original tune, the remix is techno
the andy farley tune is actually engineered totally by ant and i personally think it falls under techno although there are some hard house influences, i think this tune could be considered a crossover tune :)
the harry diamond and c.e.r.n is very much techno to be honest, although they farley and harry diamond tunes are on nuckleuz (unfortunatly) i still consider them as technotunes :)

but wat i might think is techno others may not, u sed urself u think dave the rummer sounds like a form of hard house, personally i think he is more acid techno and hard techno :)