tutorial video sending wrong message

[RDR]

Live bands have been doing covers for YEARS and no-one says shit about that...

[tonyc2002]

Live bands have been doing covers for YEARS and no-one says shit about that...

That's a very valid point.

[jon connor]

ok guys nice points there i getting sum good response , but however i was asking if it is right to do this on tutorial dvd`s on a national magazine which i and many others have to pay a good 5 or 6 quid for ?

cant help feeling a little bit let down if somone is going to steal / sample , wotever from others let them be descrete about it and do it on there own terms , dont blatently go BLA BLA BLA BLA yea do this do that bobs your uncle hears ya freshly stolen track and this is how to do it and diguise it on a national magazine tutorial dvd coz you no wot that`s jus a big fat bollock.

[loopdon]

I think it's OK. I for one generally love tutorials.
As baz pointed out it's about what you have to put 'on top' or how YOU can make something totally fresh of the samplage. Copying patterns (not much different than using midi patterns etc.) and cutting kicks etc. is ok IF you can add something to what you borrowed.

[jon connor]

I think it's OK. I for one generally love tutorials.
As baz pointed out it's about what you have to put 'on top' or how YOU can make something totally fresh of the samplage. Copying patterns (not much different than using midi patterns etc.) and cutting kicks etc. is ok IF you can add something to what you borrowed.

yea i agree but how many will edit and how many will just blantantly cant be be bothered ?

[TechMouse]

ok guys nice points there i getting sum good response , but however i was asking if it is right to do this on tutorial dvd`s on a national magazine which i and many others have to pay a good 5 or 6 quid for ?

The biggest most important lesson for most people here is that you're never going to get anywhere if you don't look for inspiration and ideas outside of the likes of Future / Computer Music.

[davethedrummer]

ok guys nice points there i getting sum good response , but however i was asking if it is right to do this on tutorial dvd`s on a national magazine which i and many others have to pay a good 5 or 6 quid for ?

cant help feeling a little bit let down if somone is going to steal / sample , wotever from others let them be descrete about it and do it on there own terms , dont blatently go BLA BLA BLA BLA yea do this do that bobs your uncle hears ya freshly stolen track and this is how to do it and diguise it on a national magazine tutorial dvd coz you no wot that`s jus a big fat bollock.

sounds to me like rennie is just being honest
electronic music wouldn't be where it is today without the sampler
espesh drum and bass
it's all about lifting breaks from records
nothing new there really.

now lifting a vocal or something like that
well...maybe thats a bit different
the sampling laws are still unclear due to the nature of sampling itself
but it has to stop somewhere otherwise the police would be round all our houses
and we'd all be nicked for that break beat we sampled ten years ago of some obscure record.
or even just your kick drum collection
you've got a 909 kick in your collection right, hasn't everybody?
you're nicked me old china!
and the prisons would be full of bleary eyed djs' wondering what the f@ck just happened.

[jon connor]

sounds to me like rennie is just being honest
electronic music wouldn't be where it is today without the sampler
espesh drum and bass
it's all about lifting breaks from records
nothing new there really.

now lifting a vocal or something like that
well...maybe thats a bit different
the sampling laws are still unclear due to the nature of sampling itself
but it has to stop somewhere otherwise the police would be round all our houses
and we'd all be nicked for that break beat we sampled ten years ago of some obscure record.
or even just your kick drum collection
you've got a 909 kick in your collection right, hasn't everybody?
you're nicked me old china!
and the prisons would be full of bleary eyed djs' wondering what the f@ck just happened.

hahahaha ok henry you hit the nail on the head that was probably the answer ive bin waiting for cheers everyone for the response.

[tocsin]

now lifting a vocal or something like that
well...maybe thats a bit different
the sampling laws are still unclear due to the nature of sampling itself
but it has to stop somewhere otherwise the police would be round all our houses
and we'd all be nicked for that break beat we sampled ten years ago of some obscure record.

Actually, the copyright laws are very clear on this. If you use someone else's recording in your track, you engaged in criminal copyright infringment unless you have been given express permission to use the recording by its owner, or if the recording is in the public domain. Only reason there aren't more legal letters and threats sent our direction is we aren't on the radar most of the time.

[DannyBlack]

you've nicked me old china!

Steady on H, that's quite the accusation.



On a sampling note, yeah I like to sample/steal/borrow loops, vocals etc... It's out there, it's fair game really.