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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyBlack View Post
    this thread confuses me! If I understand your question, my answer would be no Tots. Not at all! The mainstream is minimal etc, I don't think the techno you refer to was ever mainstream.

    I think the absolute saturation of minimal in clubs has you perhaps a little blind sided as to other styles and where they went. They didn't really go anywhere really. They are still there, underground. :-) All good. Keep your chin up mate.
    Respect danny!but its hard to keep up good spirits on the uk techno scene as everyones idea of techno is so different these days!!I was handed a cd the other day that read on the front,TECHNO!!??I played it and what came through my speakers was abismal,it was commercial electro house 125bpm and made me very sleepy??

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    Yeah, I hear you. But the best thing to do is to not get bogged down by what others deem as techno, it would wreck your head! It is hard to actually find a good techno sesh these days for sure, but you will.

    Part of the fun for me is the hunt. To scour and then to find something you can identify with. It makes putting up with bad quality nonsense worth while.

    Techno went on a downturn last year, I think we can all agree on that. But in my honest opinion I think this year it will be back on the up. Check out the guys on this site, some of the stuff they put out is truley remarkable! It really is only a matter of time before the rest cop on and realise that there is better out there. Fact. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyBlack View Post
    Yeah, I hear you. But the best thing to do is to not get bogged down by what others deem as techno, it would wreck your head! It is hard to actually find a good techno sesh these days for sure, but you will.

    Part of the fun for me is the hunt. To scour and then to find something you can identify with. It makes putting up with bad quality nonsense worth while.

    Techno went on a downturn last year, I think we can all agree on that. But in my honest opinion I think this year it will be back on the up. Check out the guys on this site, some of the stuff they put out is truley remarkable! It really is only a matter of time before the rest cop on and realise that there is better out there. Fact. :-)
    And thats why i use boa to keep track of happenings and movements of the music im in to,as i deem it an upfront real techno source!
    But as long as theres folk like the afor mentioned shooting people down for silly things it will only count towards failiure,alot of folk would have identified with my initial comments but wherent even given the chance,again sorry if im out of place and thanks for your comments ryhthmtech all the best...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tots View Post
    And thats why i use boa to keep track of happenings and movements of the music im in to,as i deem it an upfront real techno source!
    But as long as theres folk like the afor mentioned shooting people down for silly things it will only count towards failiure,alot of folk would have identified with my initial comments but wherent even given the chance,again sorry if im out of place and thanks for your comments ryhthmtech all the best...
    dONT BE SORRY DUDE YOU ARE NOT OUT OF PLACE !
    this is a place that helps people into techno a great plattform Respect son!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyBlack View Post
    Yeah, I hear you. But the best thing to do is to not get bogged down by what others deem as techno, it would wreck your head! It is hard to actually find a good techno sesh these days for sure, but you will.

    Part of the fun for me is the hunt. To scour and then to find something you can identify with. It makes putting up with bad quality nonsense worth while.

    Techno went on a downturn last year, I think we can all agree on that. But in my honest opinion I think this year it will be back on the up. Check out the guys on this site, some of the stuff they put out is truley remarkable! It really is only a matter of time before the rest cop on and realise that there is better out there. Fact. :-)

    yes danny you hit the nail on the head there fella cool!

    its like me going out on da boat fishing as i love it just as much as techno im a bass fisherman and its a hunt , but if i went out every time and caught 1 i wouldent enjoy it , its the same with techno if you had all your eggs in 1 basket every day you wouldent eat eggs no more hahahahahahahah fuk u no wot i mean jesus i sound like jose marininio im off for a vodka phewww!

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    tots, check your pm

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    also dude - i dont think slavicsvensk has the permissions to edit posts in this section, he is the metropolis moderator, nor do the mods here change stuff people put like you reckon they did. ive not seen it happen and ive been a mod here for 2 years.
    also if it was edited by anyone it would say
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    underneath (like this post does now).

    maybe you read it wrong first time?
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    Techno is future music isn't it? So by that I mean it should be constantly evolving. I love techno as much as the next guy and this isn't meant to be a negative thing, but a lot of techno sounds like techno. It's not really pushing the envelope as was the goal with techno way back when wasn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DVNT View Post
    Techno is future music isn't it? So by that I mean it should be constantly evolving. I love techno as much as the next guy and this isn't meant to be a negative thing, but a lot of techno sounds like techno. It's not really pushing the envelope as was the goal with techno way back when wasn't it?


    some of us are trying. it's tough though because people seem so determined to keep recycling a prototype that want cold years ago. i am not saying we abandon the format completely mind you, just that we try harder to be a bit more interesting than 4 and a half minutes of hard percussion, with a 4x4 feel and some "downwards" synth on top.

    i mean people from certain generations couldn't even tell you about juan atkins much less marvin gaye etc.


    here goes a story for you.


    i was in atlanta, recording the first omerta single at matt's place. we go out to eat and i slide a marvin gaye instrumentals CD into the player. i am vibing out on the deep motown vibes and all of a sudden matt yanks out the CD and says: "sorry i can't take this music"... he then proceeds to put on the latest "underground hip hop mixtape" (hasaan insane) with biggie bootlegs etc and the first song that comes on is just a 16 bar looped sample OF THE VERY SAME MARVIN GAYE TUNE THAT WAS PLAYING WHEN HE POPPED THE DISC OUT!


    this is the mentality that ****s us up. people who say "i dunno, i just play what i like" when you ask them about the roots of techno.


    closed minded, genre centric, bosh bosh heads who don't know the history of this music and are, therefore, doomed to repeat it.



    or outsiders who call dark tunes "funky" and come visit forums like this just to ask if the sound is "out of style"



    we got to LEAD the pack not just be satisfied with something that sounds like something else that is already on wax!

    i understand that new producers rely on emulation. i was the same when i started - "wow that could be a downwards tune!" (that type of mentality) but how long does it take to get past the novelty and start making tunes that actually cross boundaries or erase them altogether.


    i have mad respect for detroit heads for example but they are just as guilty of getting to a certain level musically and being content to stay there for years and years!



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    Quote Originally Posted by gunjack View Post
    some of us are trying. it's tough though because people seem so determined to keep recycling a prototype that want cold years ago. i am not saying we abandon the format completely mind you, just that we try harder to be a bit more interesting than 4 and a half minutes of hard percussion, with a 4x4 feel and some "downwards" synth on top.

    i mean people from certain generations couldn't even tell you about juan atkins much less marvin gaye etc.


    here goes a story for you.


    i was in atlanta, recording the first omerta single at matt's place. we go out to eat and i slide a marvin gaye instrumentals CD into the player. i am vibing out on the deep motown vibes and all of a sudden matt yanks out the CD and says: "sorry i can't take this music"... he then proceeds to put on the latest "underground hip hop mixtape" (hasaan insane) with biggie bootlegs etc and the first song that comes on is just a 16 bar looped sample OF THE VERY SAME MARVIN GAYE TUNE THAT WAS PLAYING WHEN HE POPPED THE DISC OUT!


    this is the mentality that ****s us up. people who say "i dunno, i just play what i like" when you ask them about the roots of techno.


    closed minded, genre centric, bosh bosh heads who don't know the history of this music and are, therefore, doomed to repeat it.



    or outsiders who call dark tunes "funky" and come visit forums like this just to ask if the sound is "out of style"



    we got to LEAD the pack not just be satisfied with something that sounds like something else that is already on wax!

    i understand that new producers rely on emulation. i was the same when i started - "wow that could be a downwards tune!" (that type of mentality) but how long does it take to get past the novelty and start making tunes that actually cross boundaries or erase them altogether.


    i have mad respect for detroit heads for example but they are just as guilty of getting to a certain level musically and being content to stay there for years and years!



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    that kind of techno has died. Sall about the minimal ;)

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    Can i just clear up the fact that no post in this thread so far has been edited in anyway by any mod.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitchieP View Post
    that kind of techno has died. Sall about the minimal ;)
    minimal is on its way out mate I can feel it. Well maybe not on its way out but prob gett better more intresting than blips and blops
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitchieP View Post
    that kind of techno has died. Sall about the minimal ;)

    Minimal will eventually die out as people are already getting bored of it anways Techno has never died as it's always Evolving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitchieP View Post
    that kind of techno has died. Sall about the minimal ;)
    hahahahahahaha wot a load of toffs thinking this is music running round ibiza on kettemin hahahahahaah mate that word minimal should be changed to bloody ambient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunjack View Post
    this is the mentality that ****s us up. people who say "i dunno, i just play what i like" when you ask them about the roots of techno.


    closed minded, genre centric, bosh bosh heads who don't know the history of this music and are, therefore, doomed to repeat it.
    I get ya its like House Dj's here suddenly play minimal techno becoz thats wat people want . But they have no understanding of the techno Genre and how it has changed throughout the year's they turn there head to harder stuff. I had one of these guys telling me Sunshine - Tomaz Vs Filterheadz was a heptic hard techno nonsense... I justed laugh at him and said shows what u know about techno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tots View Post
    To be honest i dont think Energy driven techno was ever a fashionable thing in the uk(and that was a good thing in my imo)But it had a small and dedicated following!and the clubs that housed this style blew the roof off(once upon a time)!!

    This following seems to have got smaller or more spread out here in britain and alot of the best partys seem to have moved back to the east of the world ie Holland,Belgium,Poland,ukrane,Russia and tokyo and as far as australia,to name but a few!
    I know there is the odd good party here in the uk but you have to be lucky to stumble upon one!

    The ultimate question is,if your hearts passion is hard driving energetic techno,should we move east of the world????
    HMMM NOPE JUST MORE UNDERGROUND WHERE IT SHOULD BE !
    massive scene in north wales for over a decade and half , but more free party stuff especially here in wales , now you see the likes of myself, the aWsome DISTEK , muckie beats, zoid, joe giacomet,tripple b, a.p with multiple releases and on going projects we are the new generation in my country who was influenced by this music ( hard driving energetic ) from the age of an average 15 16 in wot was a massive outdoor scene here in wales, so that is a good thing especially for wales as we are still relitivly young especially in joes case as he is 23 and has a great head on his sholders and also owns runs the mighty MORE PUNK THAN FUNK , So as for north wales i think its healthy with lots of great talent who all have come from the realness of techno the underground.

    as for uk as a whole i do think its healthy with room for inprovement just look at this board talent everywhere.

    major point is a lot of main stream djs are using hard driving energetic techno,
    eddie haliwell , judge jules, dj preach, paul van dyke,( NOT WHERE WE WANT TO SEE IT BUT IT IS WE HAVE TO EXCEPT THAT ) etc they all slap a few in there sets , so i think its just about to start again in my opinion, you do get dry patches but somthings always around the corner and brings it all back .

    1 word for 2008 hard driving energetic techno ADVENT YOU ARE LEGEND .

    Hope that helps you out a bit dude , the scene is never lost because there are plenty of young new guys girls ready to carry the batton. WORD!
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    I just finished the interview with Joris Voorn that I had mentioned to you a few weeks back.

    Some of the questions you guys wanted me to ask, were asked, and answered by him. He had some interesting things to say regarding the "minimal fad"......I'll try to copy and paste in a new thread tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tekara View Post
    I just finished the interview with Joris Voorn that I had mentioned to you a few weeks back.

    Some of the questions you guys wanted me to ask, were asked, and answered by him. He had some interesting things to say regarding the "minimal fad"......I'll try to copy and paste in a new thread tomorrow.


    I will be interested in what he has to say about the "minimal fad" I look forward to reading it
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