thanks to everyone for the replies, first off. now to some individual replies.

Quote Originally Posted by BloodStar View Post
ableton live
i love ableton, and certainly will be using this heavily in my electronic productions. but the reason i'm asking about logic/pro tools/cubase is that i'm also starting a non-techno project that involves mics and guitars. given that this is the reason i'm asking about logic, etc. would you still say "f*ck that, you have all you need in ableton?"

Quote Originally Posted by RDR View Post
Cubase: Nothing else offers the chance to highlight a portion of the wave file and apply a VST plugin to it along with a lot of very very good file management systems.

Logic: Awesome collection of native plugs and exceptional MIDI functionality.

Ableton: Great scratch pad, ****ing awful sequencer and fantastic live program

Pro-Tools: Digi002 or better. Amazing recording / mixing tool .. wanky MIDI compared to the others

Fruityloops.. top quality loop creation and compositional tool

Reason: Bloody brilliant plugin when rewired. I use it for one massive synth with 10 subtractors loaded up and spidered together

IMO of course....
Quote Originally Posted by Jay Pace View Post
Cubase as a workstation, good midi, VST & audio handling - and offline editing is excellent.

Reason as a scratch pad (i love redrum and matrix pattern sequencers) and a plugin rewired into cubase.

No comment on logic or protools, never learned them sadly.
interesting stuff from both of you. jay that's what i'm looking towards. chris, thanks for the detailed info.

question...any practical difference between vsts and aus?