bassline tutorials

[Patrick DSP]

Isn't the example in the ''chromatical scale'', anyway? :lol:

That it is, It's just a matter of taste/preference to pick a more musical scale.

[loopdon]

That it is, It's just a matter of taste/preference to pick a more musical scale.

I was trying to be funny, i know exactly what both you and steve mean. :roflmao:

[rhythmtech]

never mind danny.. there was some extra ciricular activities goin on :lol:

[BloodStar]

wicked little tutorial, Steve. can you please post screenshot or write settings of compressor you have got on Insert 2?

diky

[The_Laughing_Man]

wicked little tutorial, Steve. can you please post screenshot or write settings of compressor you have got on Insert 2?

diky

Well the settings only really apply to the particular compressor you use.

To set the compressor, or in fact whenenever I use sidechaining for bass, I always tune by ear.

So, fastest attack, fastest release, highest ratio and lowest threshold.

Play loop, I then "tune" the release until the pump works to the required groove, adjust the attack so there is no "popping" and the compression sounds smoother.
Then back off the threshold (and possibly the ratio) to get the desired pump.
For this particular tune I backed off the threshold until the first point where serious pumping stopped being obvious.

Sometimes if the bass is really big, but has a lot of mid or high end presence I will split off the signal and only sidechain the low end, say, from 200hz down, so that pumping is less noticable.

[The_Laughing_Man]

Sometimes proper chromatic chords work really nicely in basslines, you do get very interesing harmonics especially when playing with extreme filter resonance.
But also with dissonance you can get some very odd vibrations that work to really screw people up on the dancefloor.

[BloodStar]

wicked.

yeah i was just after rough settings. i will set it properly regarding the rest of sounds i have in the track.

so, what next tutorial gonna be about? :)

[The_Laughing_Man]

well the settings I used would only apply to the particular compressor I used.
The same settings on different compressors will give sometimes vastly different behaviours.


I`m going to add more to this bass tutorial post, with some different types of bassline, such as long drum and bass type, deep dub etc.

I`ll reply to tutorial requests rather than just doing stuff in any order.

I do however have to put up my video I have done for synapse audio software, which is me making a techno tune from beginning to end.

[loopdon]

well the settings I used would only apply to the particular compressor I used.
The same settings on different compressors will give sometimes vastly different behaviours.


I`m going to add more to this bass tutorial post, with some different types of bassline, such as long drum and bass type, deep dub etc.

I`ll reply to tutorial requests rather than just doing stuff in any order.

I do however have to put up my video I have done for synapse audio software, which is me making a techno tune from beginning to end.

You big tease!

[dj boss]

well the settings I used would only apply to the particular compressor I used.
The same settings on different compressors will give sometimes vastly different behaviours.


I`m going to add more to this bass tutorial post, with some different types of bassline, such as long drum and bass type, deep dub etc.

I`ll reply to tutorial requests rather than just doing stuff in any order.

I do however have to put up my video I have done for synapse audio software, which is me making a techno tune from beginning to end.

nice one bruv!! can't wait for this one, learning a lot for you, cheers for sharing your valuable knowledge!!

[curly]

I do however have to put up my video I have done for synapse audio software, which is me making a techno tune from beginning to end.

YES.
please, please, please.

[djfilthmonger]

Hey Tom! here is the tutoral about the dirty techno bass

[victorjohn]

Brilliant advice here. I am going to try the very thing with my Monomachine's digiens machine and see what I get... then being the resident old fart I'm going to play it back at 126 bpms so I can move the ol' carcass to it. :D

[DannyBlack]

bump

[ritaheed]

aye need more input from the more experienced producers.... be good to hear a few different techniques

[The_Laughing_Man]

So, what type of bassline would you like me to cover next?

[DannyBlack]

At the moment I'm making stripped down broken beat kind of techno- Audio Assaults kind of stuff... The bass is giving me trouble... patterns and what not.

[The_Laughing_Man]

At the moment I'm making stripped down broken beat kind of techno- Audio Assaults kind of stuff... The bass is giving me trouble... patterns and what not.

Audio Assault?
If you wanna look at broken beat go and listen to the people who actually knew what they were doing.
The Audio Assault stuff was always a bit, well, production line.
Try
Regis, Makaton, 65D Mavericks, Mulero, Innigo, Supagrupa, Lotki blah blah, Hiyama, Paul Damage, Early Reeko.

Most AA stuff just had your typical sub rumble that I covered already.

The more clever stuff by people above used stuff like bass chords, detuned synths with a very percussive envelope, syncopated to the kick, or polyrythmic lines.

The real "secret" or maybe the "method" to good borken beat is to approach the syncopation completely differently to standard 4s on the floor.
The offbeat is no longer note 3, 7, 11, 15 in a 16 note pattern.
So react accordingly, generally I feel good percussive stuff works on a call and response.
So the kick is the call, and each kick needs a response to balance the phrase.

Obviously sidechaining will help make stuff work, but with offbeat stuff you need to be much more clever with note placement.

I find it infinitely more inspiring than doof-tish music personally, and I wish borken beat was more widely accepted.

[DannyBlack]

I love Audio Assault.


Regis yes, I only recently started getting into his stuff. 65D Mavericks are astounding!

I like your call and response idea. I think thats where I'm falling down- the call goes out but my response is falling flat or not happening.

I have to look into side chaining because it isn't something I have ever done before.

The reason I like the off beat/broken beat stuff is because it is more, as you say inspiring and a lot more of a challenge to make. That is to say, I never really mastered thud slap thud slap...

[Honeey]

So much good information!!! thank you! :) I have learned much.