What is techno, exactly?

[Jay Pace]

What WAS experimental music isn`t so much now. That is my point.

Plenty of hard techno producers are now making music described as minimal. For Adam Beyer to change style from the king of grungy loops to uber polished shuffle funk required a fair bit of experimentation on his part. Thats mainly happened in the last 5 years or so.

Fair enough, new ground isn't being broken on a daily basis, and the whole new minimal movement isn't particularly innovative given that hawtin can claim to be on the cutting edge, and still play all his old plastikman tracks alongside the newest stuff around and most people won't notice the difference.

In terms of shifts and movements there's stuff still happening, but its more subtle I suppose. I love the really polished carl craig sound, and the mix of melodic elements that falls somewhere between house and techno. That sound is new and different, even if it isn't exactly groundbreaking of innovative. It does show evolution though, and experimentation on the part of the artists. People aren't making music which conforms rigidly to a set of rules, in order for it to sound like "techno" and not something else. Well, thats my take on it anyway.

[The_Laughing_Man]

In terms of shifts and movements there's stuff still happening, but its more subtle I suppose. I love the really polished carl craig sound, and the mix of melodic elements that falls somewhere between house and techno. That sound is new and different, even if it isn't exactly groundbreaking of innovative. It does show evolution though, and experimentation on the part of the artists. People aren't making music which conforms rigidly to a set of rules, in order for it to sound like "techno" and not something else. Well, thats my take on it anyway.

Hopping from hard techno to minimal is the exact opposite of experimentation though. It`s just following a trend.
Since when is doing that innovative?

Experimentation on the behalf of the individual artist is almost irrelevant, and can apply to any genre.
For all you know everyone within every set of dance music is doing something "THEY" haven`t done before with each new release.
That isn`t to say though, that what they are doing is anything of a different take on the genre they are working within.


I think people are making techno that does conform rigidly to a set of rules so that it doesn`t get called anything else BUT techno.

Exactly that in fact.

And melodic techno being new and different, are you kidding? that sound has been around on and of since the detroit beginnings. Not to say it isn`t good, but hardly a speck of innovation there. That kind of music that sat between techno and house was coming out in greater numbers in the early 000`s.

I spend loads of time looking for techno that has a different edge for Singularity Recordings, and its not easy to find stuff that isn`t an emulation or continuation of a very old sub style.

I love techno, but experimentation within the genre seems to have bottomed out.