put some light on the term "offbeat"

[Tony]

i am fully understanding buttys little diagram and that simple expression is a religion to me. i really like whole sets of broken beats, and find it just as simple as straight techno to mix. just thud thud thud thud got old for me a few years back. that was when i knew that the broken beat style could cope with a set of its own, but its also a pleasure to mix over straight techno. it pads out all the parts in between the thuds and brings the rhtyhm of the track to life.

but isnt all this down to regis and surgeon yet again!! all the people we have quoted where influenced by integrale and the birmingham sound.
brummies uber alles!!!
ha haaa!!

and what about bandulu / space djz.
check out all their early work.
and even in '92 / '93 jeff mills also produced some broken beat things.

anyway.
broken beat = techstyle breakbeat??

and doesn't all kinds of techno have its broken beat variants?
check out some stuff of oliver ho.

i know, i fully agree there are loads of other examples of stuff like that. but i do think r&s stuck to that quite a bit, almost made it their own, then eastern europe took it and went WAHEY!!! crazy shit!!
i really like the scandinavian broken beats too sometimes. bacto and makind and stuff, lovely!!

also: just to further the the pigeon hole dilemma. i often think of broken beat as stuff like tobias schmidt and danial benavente. stuff thats a bit too techno to be wonky (bloody hell splitting hairs or what!!!)