put some light on the term "offbeat"

[Tony]

[gunjack]

ok "broken beat" IS A STYLE THAT ALREADY EXISTS IN THE NU JAZZ WORLD

off beat or DOUBLE BEAT as we called it back in spain is just that, 130 - 148 bpm techno that is 4x4 in signature but does not have the kick on the first beat of every bar of music for example the boom hiss boom hiss boom hiss boom hiss is what they leyman calls 4x4 but actually double beat is 4x4 usually as well unless someone is really experimenting with other time signatures and making less "dj friendly" material... but anyway for the NYC heads, just so you know, you are calling "double beat" or "off beat" techno - "broken beat" but broken beat is a breakbeat/nu-jazz genre so maybe switch up the terminology...




by the way, double beat records have been really hard to sell since olga + yuzef saturated the market in 2004



some great off beat stuff coming out on ppruk64 and omerta 01 check them!



GJ

[BranLanen]

off beat or DOUBLE BEAT as we called it back in spain is just that...

Which part of Spain? In the north people always said "triple beat" but I think the right translation could be triple kick(?)

some great off beat stuff coming out on ppruk64 and omerta 01 check them!

You mean PRRUK 064?

[gunjack]

Which part of Spain? In the north people always said "triple beat" but I think the right translation could be triple kick(?)



You mean PRRUK 064?

no there is no triple bombo as you say, i worked for a long while in madrid, in a vinyl distributor thanks very much, and yea i made a typo. geez what a jerk huh?

anyway dirty bass thanks for the compliment, like i say planet rhythm 64 and omerta 001 are on promo now, they are fine examples i feel, of the double beat sound taken in the kinda direction you mention, more interaction than displacement for sure.

[The Overfiend]

ok "broken beat" IS A STYLE THAT ALREADY EXISTS IN THE NU JAZZ WORLD

off beat or DOUBLE BEAT as we called it back in spain is just that, 130 - 148 bpm techno that is 4x4 in signature but does not have the kick on the first beat of every bar of music for example the boom hiss boom hiss boom hiss boom hiss is what they leyman calls 4x4 but actually double beat is 4x4 usually as well unless someone is really experimenting with other time signatures and making less "dj friendly" material... but anyway for the NYC heads, just so you know, you are calling "double beat" or "off beat" techno - "broken beat" but broken beat is a breakbeat/nu-jazz genre so maybe switch up the terminology...




by the way, double beat records have been really hard to sell since olga + yuzef saturated the market in 2004



some great off beat stuff coming out on ppruk64 and omerta 01 check them!



GJ

Broken Beat / Nu jazz as in Jeremy Ellis and other material on Ubiquity true.
But categorizing techno by its time signature is a shit move anyways.
It used to be called Birmingham sound to be truly technical about it.
For the record that "Unfinished Business" track is ass. I'm not even saying it cause I don't like the kid, but it is not a breakthrough technique to take a vocal run it through glitch and do a broken time signature around it.......through the whooole damn song. Nothing groundbreaking at all. In your defense Brian I say you know what you're doing when it comes to that kind of track, but ya mans an them..................

[gunjack]

Broken Beat / Nu jazz as in Jeremy Ellis and other material on Ubiquity true.
But categorizing techno by its time signature is a shit move anyways.
It used to be called Birmingham sound to be truly technical about it.
For the record that "Unfinished Business" track is ass. I'm not even saying it cause I don't like the kid, but it is not a breakthrough technique to take a vocal run it through glitch and do a broken time signature around it.......through the whooole damn song. Nothing groundbreaking at all. In your defense Brian I say you know what you're doing when it comes to that kind of track, but ya mans an them..................

um no that beat is nothing like the birmingham sound, and ok you don't like the vocal? but the kick and clap patterns etc are ABSOLUTELY INOVATIVE and are a new twist on the double beat sound making tracks like that mixable with half time hip hop etc... and if you want to get "technical" about it LUKE SLATER came up with that sound on the early planetary assault sytems records, but matt takes it further.... your comments on the vocal are fair enough, but the rest of the bullshit you are talking is PURE HATING on your part.

[clubsynthetic]

I always though offbeat meant in a 4/4 time signature, the off beat is the beat in between the bass kick beats. one would double beat two records on the off beat no?