put some light on the term "offbeat"

**gunjack** · 22-01-2008, 09:56 PM

hey sam if you weren't acting the fool trying to condescend to me with your little "music theory" comment i would not have had to get nasty with you. but at the end of the day you will still be some hater on the internet and i will be releasing music in the real world.

ampass i said matt's track was inovative, not my own, learn to read instead of sskimming.

MARK, YOUR "MODERATOR" IS TAKING THE PISS WITH JABS LIKE "TAKE A MUSIC THEORY CLASS" OR WHATEVER.... IS THIS REALLY CALLED FOR?

tony lugo talks and talks like he is "in the know" but he is just som,e other outsider trying to play "know it all"

tony if you spent half as much time on your music than you did looking for ways to pop off at people you might not sound like such a generic loop monger.

the truth hurts i bet but it's true. how many years have you been on this forum talking shit? what have you accomplished?

you need to learn how to WRITE MUSIC not just slap a bunch of prefab loops together into some chaotic "hard techno" demo trax like you do.

GROW THE F4CK UP TONY. STOP HATING ON MATT AND I AND GO MAKE SOMETHING ON YOUR OWN.

TYPICAL JEALOUS HATER TEARING PEOPLE DOWN INSTEAD OF ANSWERING WITH HIS MUSIC.

PRODUCE SOMETHING GENUINE AND THEN MAYBE PEOPLE WILL TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY.

OH YEA TONY, YOU DIDN'T INTRODUCE ME TO MATT K, YOU PASSED HIM MY EMAIL, STOP TRYING TO PLAY THE GODFATHER AND TAKE YOUR PLACE IN LINE WITH THE REST OF THE HATERS.

SERIOUSLY, PATHETIC, MATT AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOU MAN AND IF PASSING MY EMAIL TO MATT K IS YOUR CLAIM TO FAME THEN YOU ARE A SAD, PETTY DUDE.

**gunjack** · 22-01-2008, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by The Overfiend

in the end Gunjack is only out for Gunjack.

OH THEN YOU ARE ALL NOBLE AND OUT TO CURE CANCER OR WHAT?
WHAT THE F4CK ARE you IN THIS FOR THEN? INNOVATION? YOU AIN'T INNOVATED A DAMNED THING SINCE YOUR LAST BOWEL MOVEMENT.

I AM OUT FOR MAKING MUSIC AND PUTTING RECORDS OUT, TAKING MY IDEAS AS FAR AS I CAN SO YEA, I AM OUT FOR GUNJACK! GODDAMNED RIGHT! IF I DON'T LOOK OUT FOR ME WHO WILL? YOU?

YOU TONY LUGO, FANK PAUZE AND PAT DSP ARE SOME OF THE FAKEST, PETTIEST AND CORNIEST M4THER4CKERS OUT THERE.

FRANK PAUZE CARES MORE ABOUT FOLLOWING HIS DICK AROUND THAN MAKING MUSIC OR RUNNING HARDSIGNAL, PAT DSP DOESN'T HAVE THE BALLS TO STAND UP FOR HIMSELF TO YOU OR FRANK AND YOU ARE JUST A JEALOUS HANGER ON, SOME FOOL WHO TALKS A BIG GAME ABOUT "WHATEVER YOU NEED I AM THERE FOR YOU" BUT NEVER ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTES MORE THAN COMPLAINTS.
MAN F4CK YOU AND YOUR LITTLE BLACKOUT TECHNO FANTASY CAMP:

PUT UP OR SHUT UP, WORDS NOW MEAN SHIT FROM YOU, SHOW US YOUR ALL KNOWING TECHNO TECHNIQUE... SHEEEIIIIT FOOL YOU AIN'T GOT CHOPS, IF YOU DID YOU WOULD BE PUTTING OUT SHIT TO BACK UP ALL THIS EMPTY TALK YOU USE TO FILL YOUR FREE TIME.

FOOL CONSIDER GUNJACK OFFICIALLY OUT OF THE BLACKOUT BUILDING. ANY FORUM MODERATED BY TONY LUGO IS A JOKE.

HOW YOU GONNA COME AT SOMEONE WITH MORE THAN A HUNDRED COMMERCIAL MUSIC RELEASES AND GET SARCASTIC ABOUT "MUSIC THEORY" WHEN YOUR ASS AIN'T DONE AN ORIGINAL TRACK...... EVER?!

DELETE MY ACCOUNT, EVERY TIME I TALK ON THIS FORUM IT'S LIKE FEEDING SIRLOIN TO A PIG LIKE YOU.

FAO MARK EG, YOUR MODERATOR NEEDS SOME MODERATION, IF YOU READ THE THREAD YOU WILL SEE IT WAS RUINED BY TONY'S PERSONAL BEEF WITH MATT AND I.

SHOULDN'T THE MODERATOR AT LEAST PRETEND TO BE OBJECTIVE? OR MAYBE JUST STICK TO TALKING ABOUT MUSIC AND NOT TAKE CHEAP SHOTS????

I URGE ANYBODY WHO IS SICK OF ROMPER ROOM MODERATORS AND ENDLESS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT "SCHRANZ VS MNML" ETC TO SIGN UP OVER AT

http://hardtekno.net/

TENS OF THOUSANDS SIGNED UP ALREADY AND COUNTING.

RESPECT TO ALL THE GENUINE AND NICE PEOPLE I HAVE MET HERE ON BLACKOUT
AND A BIG F4CK YOU TO ALL THE CORNY HATERS WHO GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO BUT RIDE COAT TAILS.

**gunjack** · 22-01-2008, 10:19 PM

Oh Yea And That "unauthorized' Sample I "stole" From Dsp Is a Mr. Finger's Acapella That Is Available Even On Limewire.... Man

"i Introduced You To Matt"
"you Stole Pat's Samples"

Are You Really This Pathetic? Why Does What I Do Have Such A Grand Effect On You? You Are Just Hating, Looking For Reasons To Tear Down Because You Don't Have The Gumption To Create... How Many People On This Forum Actually Would Play One Of Your Beats Out? I Am Guessing That None Of The Mature Folks Here Would Even Give Your Little Beats A Second Listen. You Are A Sorry Assed Wannabe And I Am Gonna Go Back To Writing Music And Releasing Records, Maybe You Should Give It A Try.

**The Overfiend** · 22-01-2008, 10:25 PM

Wow, you actually formulated a thought in one singular post, kudos!

As a mod, I pointed out to do the promotion for your release, in the release section.
Simply because that is what it is for.

In regards to "taking the piss" all I did was throw a dart your way since you have been pretty much prancing around the topic of this thread correcting everyones ideas and post scripting it with the most ground breaking broken beat release of them all, your Planet Rhythm 64.

Which I even stated the tracks on there are good, I just didn't think your boy Matt was as groundbreaking, special, or even playable as you stated.

As far as my musical endeavors, I am no where near worried about your opinion on what I do. I do what I do, I have releases out, with more than reputable labels, and I have my performances slated, and my business in place. It's laughable you even feeling like I have to justify my endeavors to you of all people.

You may be "winning" the churning out 2 or 3 releases a month race, but you most certainly are loosing the race called life. Quality over Quantity.

Side note I am not a hater of what you do, or what Matt does.
Taking responsibility for placing Hip Hop vocals over beats has been done since the old UC days in Chicago.

Truth be told.

May the broken beat discussion continue on.

**Jay Pace** · 22-01-2008, 11:49 PM

Loving The Use Of Caps

ADDS TO THE MENACE

and
the unCERTAINTY!

**robin m** · 23-01-2008, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by Jay Pace

Loving The Use Of Caps

ADDS TO THE MENACE

and
the unCERTAINTY!

:lol: :lol:

POR QUE BRUV CLOT?

**force** · 23-01-2008, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by Jay Pace

Loving The Use Of Caps

ADDS TO THE MENACE

and
the unCERTAINTY!

Had a few views this thread, aint it?
:lol:

**snooch** · 23-01-2008, 12:43 AM

Boy this thread took a nosedive.

**John Vella** · 23-01-2008, 01:06 AM

Wow some guys can talk alot of trash from behind the security & safety of a computer screen!! Turns people into instant tough guys.

**The Overfiend** · 23-01-2008, 01:14 AM

And gangsterish thugs, techno tough guys, lol.
Lets not forget that one.

Has anyone heard the Horror Brawl mix that's in the files section really good display of some of this stuff.

**John Vella** · 23-01-2008, 01:19 AM

Yup... Gangster alright..... Straight Outta Suburbia.

**SlavikSvensk** · 23-01-2008, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by deafmosaic

DELETE MY ACCOUNT, EVERY TIME I TALK ON THIS FORUM IT'S LIKE FEEDING SIRLOIN TO A PIG LIKE YOU.

no one is forcing you to come on here, man and just because one person doesn't like something you did or something you post doesn't he's "drinking haterade." but it doesn't mean he's right either. he just doesn't agree with you. and since we're talking about "innovation," a subjective concept, that's just another opinion among many. tbh i'm a bit surprised that someone who's put a lot of stuff out seems to have such a problem with criticism.

you and tony obviously have some history and some sh*t to work out, but this is really kind of silly place and way to do that.

**The Overfiend** · 23-01-2008, 01:44 AM

Agreed, Slav.
I was just giving my opinion on a track.

As far as history with Brian, lol.

I have a good rep with my friends that I have made via techno, from California to Asia and back. I also have a totally separate life outside of this.

5 years from now I will be practicing law, and hopefully still dropping releases.
I certainly will not be considered a ladron.

**The Overfiend** · 23-01-2008, 07:46 AM

Go Hiyama & Takaaki Itoh
Should definitely be on this list for the genre I think.

**Si the Sigh** · 23-01-2008, 08:12 AM

What a massive sack of ass this thread turned out to be...

**MITA** · 23-01-2008, 09:20 AM

bollocks innit :lol:

**ampassasinbirmingham** · 23-01-2008, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by John Vella

Yup... Gangster alright..... Straight Outta Suburbia.

:):):) defiantly

**dirty_bass** · 23-01-2008, 01:03 PM

I heard a story about a music called techno.
Some band invented it in the 90`s.
They did this tune yeah, dah dah dadadadah dah dah dadadadah dah dah dadadadadah dah dum dum dum dum.
no no
no no no no
there`s no limits

Yeah baby it was the bomb.
Avin it.

Where can I hear more of that?

**MITA** · 23-01-2008, 01:21 PM

hey Steve,try here:

http://www.mp3fiesta.com/the_very_be...ed_album98955/

http://www.discogs.com/artist/2+Unlimited

hope this helps~

**clubsynthetic** · 23-01-2008, 01:58 PM

i never heard any of the dubious music in question... Can i have links? or links to links? I wanna hear it/them

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