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[DannyBlack]

Nice one matey, downloading now.


Edit:

That is class! You really took the loop and made something completely different. proper creepy.

[josephjobling]

cheers man - thanks for inspiring..........

[DannyBlack]

:-) I'll give you the rest of the loops to that track later if you want mate?

[josephjobling]

no worries that would be sweet cheers.

[DannyBlack]

Excellent, I'll upload them later. good work. can't wait to hear what the lads do too. Might throw it all into ableton mix it all up a bit if everyone agrees.

[josephjobling]

i deffo agree - mix away - i hope more people have a go - get some more versions of peoples loops see if you can make a tune with them. would be interesting.

[DannyBlack]

It's a good learning process I think. When I don't understand something, the only way I learn personally, is to see exactly how other people do it- and play off that.

[The_Laughing_Man]

Loops?
Loops are ok for a quick fix, but I prefer my own sound design now.
Samples in general I tend to use hardly at all.
Not out of snobbery but when you craft sounds via synthesis you simply have more control over every aspect of the sound, whereas with a sample you have to work with the spectral nature of that sample, and no matter how many effects you pile onto it, there are some things you simply won`t be able to change about the nature of the sound.

And of course repitching a sample or loop brings it`s own problems.

I don`t know, all the best techno I hear is down to the sound design, the work that has gone into the construction of the sounds, rather than treated samples.

Not that samples are redundant to me, but you can definitely add more control, dynamic and originality to your mixes by constructing your own sounds via some form of synthesis.

[josephjobling]

It's a good learning process I think. When I don't understand something, the only way I learn personally, is to see exactly how other people do it- and play off that.

true - i have learned some new things today.

[DannyBlack]

Loops?
Loops are ok for a quick fix, but I prefer my own sound design now.
Samples in general I tend to use hardly at all.
Not out of snobbery but when you craft sounds via synthesis you simply have more control over every aspect of the sound, whereas with a sample you have to work with the spectral nature of that sample, and no matter how many effects you pile onto it, there are some things you simply won`t be able to change about the nature of the sound.

And of course repitching a sample or loop brings it`s own problems.

I don`t know, all the best techno I hear is down to the sound design, the work that has gone into the construction of the sounds, rather than treated samples.

Not that samples are redundant to me, but you can definitely add more control, dynamic and originality to your mixes by constructing your own sounds via some form of synthesis.

I do like to use samples I have to say. I think creating everything from synthesis is my next stage.

Why not give the loop thing a stab for the craic Steve?

[curly]

downloading them loops now,

Where have the elements come from Danny, synths or samples, because I am also going to try and recreate your loop as well, this is something I am starting to do more often, Makes me think about sounds in more depth, I don't always get the same result, sometimes not even that close but I usually learn something from the process..

@Joephjobling Nice one, you have just inspired me to get a bit more creative than i normally do.

[josephjobling]

@Joephjobling Nice one, you have just inspired me to get a bit more creative than i normally do.

no worries - passing the inspiration on - all good

[DannyBlack]

downloading them loops now,

Where have the elements come from Danny, synths or samples, because I am also going to try and recreate your loop as well, this is something I am starting to do more often, Makes me think about sounds in more depth, I don't always get the same result, sometimes not even that close but I usually learn something from the process..

@Joephjobling Nice one, you have just inspired me to get a bit more creative than i normally do.

Its made from a really crappy drum machine- closed hats, and a really thin sounding bongo that I pushed through a crusher [Camel Crusher i think] and wave shaper and then a touch of verb.

[The_Laughing_Man]

I do like to use samples I have to say. I think creating everything from synthesis is my next stage.

Why not give the loop thing a stab for the craic Steve?

I did I think when curly came round.
I was showing him some techniques for making hard techno.

[curly]

Well my mangling of Danny's loops, a couple of sub lines and some atmospheric thingey.

maybe more tomorrow.

http://rapidshare.com/files/24645527..._loop.zip.html

[DannyBlack]

nice nice nice. love the atmosphere mate.



heres my use of the loop in a breaky type context i guess.
http://rapidshare.com/files/246479946/dannyloopuse.wav

[josephjobling]

nice work curly thats sweet - danny couldn't download yours - keeps coming up with an error.

[DannyBlack]

hmmmm il try and re up it.

[DannyBlack]

there we go:
http://rapidshare.com/files/246604722/dannyloopuse.wav

[acidsaturation]

Loops and samples are a tool, as is synthesis. A bit of both suits me just fine.