NYE 2009 UK - A huge UK Techno Line-up.... YOUR THOUGHTS

[Luke_C]

Dj Boss! :D

[clubsynthetic]

hawtin
beyer
gayle san
dave clark
Surgeon
secret cinema
mauro picotto
Secret Cinema
Cari Lekebusch
ben sims
Industryalizer + The Advent
JAMIE ****ING LIDELL if you could get him to play live techno set
Dave the drummer
Jerome Hill
Subhead
Jamie Ball
Me

if you spread your bets and wanted to pull the biggests crowd

[ritaheed]

Really? he has some top quality productions, i have dl'd a few of his sets wasn't mad on em, but they weren't bad.

a was well let down by him, a thought he was gna hammer it out big time but he was mega disapointing.... at the end of his set no one clapped or cheered or even made a sound, everyone just turned and walked out the door - it was well strange

[the A'tchet]

Mark said about a big name Schranz name as a possibility - he would pull in ''that'' crowd. It's all very well people saying 'Dave the Drummer, Liberators, Calver, RTB Geezer etc'' but how many times have most punters seen most of them? Loads.

I'd want some of them, some BMB style stuff, maybe some US stuff, mix it up.

there is a reason most punters have seen them loads,mayb its because they are the best at what they do,gauranteed to pull a crowd n pretty much gauranteed a wicked nite.thats what its all about isnt it?

[Stella Boy]

there is a reason most punters have seen them loads,mayb its because they are the best at what they do,gauranteed to pull a crowd n pretty much gauranteed a wicked nite.thats what its all about isnt it?

too right people want to have a great night but surely punters should trust the judgement of the promotors. It's not as if they're gonna book someone shite who can't play a great set.

There's far too much emphasis on booking the same old dj's. If promotors stick to the same gameplan then when the time comes that a dj hangs up their headphones or moves on then there's gonna be even less of a scene. imo of course

[TVart]

immersion
advent
david moleon
mhonolink
rob stow
luke slater
dave the drummer & ap & chris l.
dean cole & frank hunter...


from this board:

pat_mcgerkin
dark young
fil devious
stefano tt...


that is line up i want to hear every weekend... peace! :)

[Luke_C]

a was well let down by him, a thought he was gna hammer it out big time but he was mega disapointing.... at the end of his set no one clapped or cheered or even made a sound, everyone just turned and walked out the door - it was well strange

Everyone has there bad days! haha But that does sound very strange! :o

[teknohead]

billy nasty
dj tanith (universe 92 set)
dave the drummer
aaron,chris and julian liberator
geezer
kn
concrete djz

[Rog]

henry cullen b2b dj pattrix (mutate to survive label type sound)

[Darkmode]

immersion
advent
david moleon
mhonolink
rob stow
luke slater
dave the drummer & ap & chris l.
dean cole & frank hunter...


from this board:

pat_mcgerkin
dark young
fil devious
stefano tt...


that is line up i want to hear every weekend... peace! :)

Does Dean Cole still release music & play out? As the last time I saw him play was when he played a live set as USER in Newcastle back in 2001

[TVart]

hm..i dont realy know that mate...im so far away from england (serbia).

but,i just mention this guy because i love that sound. its so prefect! "user" is the best dj tool EVER imho.

correct me if i'm wrong,but dean cole and frank hunter are 'black arts" these days...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWBbn3dCDmE


what do you think about that? :)

[davethedrummer]

pet duo
miss djaxx
rush
for yer schranz

beyer
carola
faki
for yer min/tech

Vath as yer crowd puller

somebody clever live like
scan x
or
hardfloor or vitalic

guest apperances:

jeff mills on the piano singing jazz / chas and dave covers

teisto playing a guitar with only one string
and 2 fingers up his nose. ( somebody elses fingers )

[Blackout Chief]

isnt it funny how you're given an incredible budget on new years eve and within the first three names it's almost eaten up. lol

ok well, this is how far i am with this:

i've pretty much got all the prices i want from loads of the above mentioned names... and most of the european ones are just silly money. i dunno what it is, but how some of these people expect some of the prices i've been quoted is beyond me. all that plus business flights, dinner for their girlfriends. sack that. it's the principle of the thing tbh. i'd rather support the UK names.

so i'm now looking at one or two european headliners and a more uk based line-up. billy nasty, surgeon, sims, those sort of names. oh and henry and chris of course.

anyway i'll update you all soon. thanks so much for your recommendations.

[leforge]

Cheers for update Mark. Where is this likely to take place? UK djs much cheaper option get the likes of Trevor Rockcliffe, Dave Angel in there

[davethedrummer]

isnt it funny how you're given an incredible budget on new years eve and within the first three names it's almost eaten up. lol

ok well, this is how far i am with this:

i've pretty much got all the prices i want from loads of the above mentioned names... and most of the european ones are just silly money. i dunno what it is, but how some of these people expect some of the prices i've been quoted is beyond me. all that plus business flights, dinner for their girlfriends. sack that. it's the principle of the thing tbh. i'd rather support the UK names.

so i'm now looking at one or two european headliners and a more uk based line-up. billy nasty, surgeon, sims, those sort of names. oh and henry and chris of course.

anyway i'll update you all soon. thanks so much for your recommendations.

tell me about it mark
the hydraulix party isn't cheap either and that's a birthday blag fee wise.
and you know what ?
I'm now getting junk mail from various DJ agencies saying
"we've got this DJ free next month do you want to take him?? "
and I've never even spoken to these guys.

I'm like
"f@ck off! I'm not a f@cking promoter !!"
"I love the way they try to say " we've got this DJ free, you lucky people...."
when really what it means is " this DJs making some really big tunes right now
but because the music scene is so watered down and everything is so faceless
that this guy can't get any work that actually pays anything, ie: DJ'ing
and even if you do book him the chances are no-one will show up to see him because they haven't really heard of him because when radio one does play his shit, it's at 4am on a monday night.
so come on please , pay our guy , take a fall for us and we won't be there to pick up the pieces when you cant pay next months mortgage."

sound familiar to anyone ?
I mean do I look stupid or what ?
( don't answer that )

I really think the agencies and DJs should stop being so damn greedy/desperate
and realize that there just isn't the market for that shit any more
and business class seats and all that, I mean...come on.

It's become a sad old same old
big corporate gigs , nothing in between of any real value
clubs closed down , turned into wine bars or flats to move more people in
to "desirable" respectable, QUIET neighborhoods away from the chav gangs
that roam the streets tearing the flesh from live babies
and stabbing anything that get's in their way ( apparently )
nowhere for new comers to play ( or anyone else ) , cheesy nonsensical music takes over clubland
everyone gets desperate and says " its for the money / family "
I know it's crap, but I gotta pay the bills.....
Jesus, is that a good reason now ?
Is this what is has come to ?
Is this the best we can do ?
Obviously it is.

music goes down the toilet
and morality follows a close second
excuses for real songs hit the headlines and
corporate crap clubbing is double enabled by the credit crunch
and outright greed.

we ARE waiting for a musical revolution
and won't those "big" DJ's look stupid when it happens ?
maybe , who cares as long as the revolution happens
and helps kids think for themselves.

rant over
I'll put the kettle on shall I ?

[Technologic]

isnt it funny how you're given an incredible budget on new years eve and within the first three names it's almost eaten up. lol

ok well, this is how far i am with this:

i've pretty much got all the prices i want from loads of the above mentioned names... and most of the european ones are just silly money. i dunno what it is, but how some of these people expect some of the prices i've been quoted is beyond me. all that plus business flights, dinner for their girlfriends. sack that. it's the principle of the thing tbh. i'd rather support the UK names.

so i'm now looking at one or two european headliners and a more uk based line-up. billy nasty, surgeon, sims, those sort of names. oh and henry and chris of course.

anyway i'll update you all soon. thanks so much for your recommendations.

Yeah, for NYE though there's going to be an incredibly high demand and door prices aren't going to be cheap either. So a budget for anyone on the night is likely to at least double that of any normal night.

Well up for the likes of Nasty, Simms & Surgeon though :-)

[DannyBlack]

tell me about it mark
the hydraulix party isn't cheap either and that's a birthday blag fee wise.
and you know what ?
I'm now getting junk mail from various DJ agencies saying
"we've got this DJ free next month do you want to take him?? "
and I've never even spoken to these guys.

I'm like
"f@ck off! I'm not a f@cking promoter !!"
"I love the way they try to say " we've got this DJ free, you lucky people...."
when really what it means is " this DJs making some really big tunes right now
but because the music scene is so watered down and everything is so faceless
that this guy can't get any work that actually pays anything, ie: DJ'ing
and even if you do book him the chances are no-one will show up to see him because they haven't really heard of him because when radio one does play his shit, it's at 4am on a monday night.
so come on please , pay our guy , take a fall for us and we won't be there to pick up the pieces when you cant pay next months mortgage."

sound familiar to anyone ?
I mean do I look stupid or what ?
( don't answer that )

I really think the agencies and DJs should stop being so damn greedy/desperate
and realize that there just isn't the market for that shit any more
and business class seats and all that, I mean...come on.

It's become a sad old same old
big corporate gigs , nothing in between of any real value
clubs closed down , turned into wine bars or flats to move more people in
to "desirable" respectable, QUIET neighborhoods away from the chav gangs
that roam the streets tearing the flesh from live babies
and stabbing anything that get's in their way ( apparently )
nowhere for new comers to play ( or anyone else ) , cheesy nonsensical music takes over clubland
everyone gets desperate and says " its for the money / family "
I know it's crap, but I gotta pay the bills.....
Jesus, is that a good reason now ?
Is this what is has come to ?
Is this the best we can do ?
Obviously it is.

music goes down the toilet
and morality follows a close second
excuses for real songs hit the headlines and
corporate crap clubbing is double enabled by the credit crunch
and outright greed.

we ARE waiting for a musical revolution
and won't those "big" DJ's look stupid when it happens ?
maybe , who cares as long as the revolution happens
and helps kids think for themselves.

rant over
I'll put the kettle on shall I ?

I guess that's what happens when money and ego take over. I've played a few places and have put on a couple of parties and I've never made money off it. Nor did I intend too. And I honestly don't give a crap.

I think keeping NYE this side of the pond with this side of the pond (and a couple of yankee DJz) artists would be a class idea.- Somehow though, I think the masses want european blood.

[MARK ANXIOUS]

Yeah, for NYE though there's going to be an incredibly high demand and door prices aren't going to be cheap either. So a budget for anyone on the night is likely to at least double that of any normal night.

Well up for the likes of Nasty, Simms & Surgeon though :-)

Mate, I totally understand this. Everything on NYE is double for sure. I have been doing this myself on my own prices for like 20 years.. it's a given on NYE... BUT

this silly price for techno (that i have had here that is almost triple in a few instances), plus superstar demands. **** that. It's nuts... the uk cant support that. how is techno supposed to grow like this? can you not see that the uk club scene would rather put 5000 quid on someone that will PULL commercial than miss xxx with 2 business class flights cause she pulls in europe. Damn if we want techno to grow in UK we need a few big names who really are willing to step in and say 'We'll help you out'. Until that happens IMHO techno that is not fashion (ie minimal) is ****ed.

thats my 2 cents....

[Technologic]

Mate, I totally understand this. Everything on NYE is double for sure. I have been doing this myself on my own prices for like 20 years.. it's a given on NYE... BUT

this silly price for techno (that i have had here that is almost triple in a few instances), plus superstar demands. **** that. It's nuts... the uk cant support that. how is techno supposed to grow like this? can you not see that the uk club scene would rather put 5000 quid on someone that will PULL commercial than miss xxx with 2 business class flights cause she pulls in europe. Damn if we want techno to grow in UK we need a few big names who really are willing to step in and say 'We'll help you out'. Until that happens IMHO techno that is not fashion (ie minimal) is ****ed.

thats my 2 cents....

Yeah, I see what you're saying...
Maybe the agents just know they can get their asking prices so why wouldn't they follow the money, just business sense really.

Anyway, i think good PR for negotiation is pretty important if this is what the UK scene really needs, someone who knows the artists, can pull strings and get good deals.

Also I think a lot of artists just need to have it made worth their while...
maybe it'd be worth finding another promotion willing to split some some expenses for some kind of tour.

There are ways of cutting costs, just takes some effort mate.

[DannyBlack]

Mate, I totally understand this. Everything on NYE is double for sure. I have been doing this myself on my own prices for like 20 years.. it's a given on NYE... BUT

this silly price for techno (that i have had here that is almost triple in a few instances), plus superstar demands. **** that. It's nuts... the uk cant support that. how is techno supposed to grow like this? can you not see that the uk club scene would rather put 5000 quid on someone that will PULL commercial than miss xxx with 2 business class flights cause she pulls in europe. Damn if we want techno to grow in UK we need a few big names who really are willing to step in and say 'We'll help you out'. Until that happens IMHO techno that is not fashion (ie minimal) is ****ed.

thats my 2 cents....

so then why not compose an email to that effect to the big names and see who bites? Surely there must be someone out there who is actually prepared to step up to the plate and shed the superstar demands for one night?

There is nothing to lose and everything to gain.