NYE 2009 UK - A huge UK Techno Line-up.... YOUR THOUGHTS

[leforge]

It be good night.

[leforge]

Can Chris Liberator play bit later he was on too early last one!

[A.P.]

I think the line up could of been better for a nye event tbh mate.

[crime]

I'd like to add here, that I did actually offer my services, at a reasonable price I might add, dunno if I would have made the line-up any more interesting for you lot, but it just pains me somewhat that I offer people a good deal and then read comments like the last few about what the outcome was... that said, I do feel a bit like yesterdays news these days to be honest, so apologies if it sounds a bit like sour grapes, just feel an opportunity was missed...

[DannyBlack]

I do feel a bit like yesterdays news these days to be honest, so apologies if it sounds a bit like sour grapes, just feel an opportunity was missed...

As much as we have butted heads on things on here, I have to say- that sounds grim mate. Yes, I think you would have been great on the line up.

But mate, shake that mindset! I still listen to your mixes- it gets me through work- some days are just plain shit in here, your stuff helps.

[MARK ANXIOUS]

hey mark aka crime. sorry mate.. you have to understand i have to get this arena established first. as it stands on my first crack, the way to do this is use names that ppl in the uk 'rave' scene are gonna know. joey is an obvious one. surgeon is sort of too. chris and h do alot in this country also.

the plan is to get this arena established on this occasion, then we really go to town when dj prices are more reasonable and the newly established converts to the sound trust the arena. it's about building the uk following for this sound...

this is not europe where you can put 'the advent' on and pack a party. uk is ****ed for good techno as you know but putting an arena like this on in a seriously big event with 13 arenas like this is unheard of imho. all we have right now at big events like this is dave clarke's 'electro arena' or sven vath's 'cocoon arena'. it's pitiful. bear with me bro. i actually wanna take this to ALL the big uk events if i can.. but we gotta be clever... we gotta pull ppl from the big events who don't know techno, and then make them realise how good it is...

that way we make a scene in the uk. ok everyone is doing there own thing here in the uk (ie atomic jam/colour/split etc) but we can't deny the fact that we would get thousands upon thousands of ppl from the big events i play at (creamfields/pleasuredome/slammin vinyl - some of which are the biggest parties in the uk) into techno if we get serious arena's on these parties. Alot of these guys are now starting to ask me to put on arenas. But we need to do it cleverly. Call it a kinda underground resistance if you will :)

Welcome your thoughts guys/gals...

[teknofilth]

I think it is wicked that techno is going to be represented at a big bash like this, get some of the enthusiastic glowstick wavers that go to slammin vinyl etc exposed to techno because they are a fresh young crowd, thing is mark I think you can’t really win, if you make this a success and techno appears regularly at big events people will grumble that it is being sold-out and is going commercial, if you don’t make it a success people say “oh you should have booked him/her/it” instead..
.. I think looking at it long-term is the way to go – what with the cyclical nature of electronic music I think that over the years having seen hmv/virgin etc stock “best of” hard house, best of trance/best of dnb/best of old skool/electro-house etc that techno is due its time in the spotlight..
..I think that perhaps this particular cycle has adopted minimal techno as its turn in the spotlight but all that means is next time the cycle goes around, a few new genres will have their "best of" moment in the spotlight before once again techno is in position to shake everyone up - so it is up to everyone who really gives a shit to use this time now, while the scene doesn’t have a load of fashionistas/moneymen/gangsters involved trying to dilute everything, just people in it for the love and avin it factor , time to prepare, get producing, DJing, getting new blood into the scene via big nights like these, waiting to pounce and tear the techno walls down..
..dnb springs to mind as the most obvious template to learn from imo, going back to the mid 90s with all the moody jungle, violence at raves, then into that cold techstep, then all of a sudden Roni Size won the Mercury Prize, all the wankers went to UK garage nights and smashed each other over the head with champagne bottles at Coliseum etc instead of dnb events – and dnb matured into the sound and scene that it is now, secure, popular and always evolving..
..so for me this night and others like it is all about setting the foundation to get people into techno in the next few years, it is up to those with an interest to be ready to take advantage when it does happen by doing things now, so when people are gagging for something more..more TECHNO then we will be ready
Sorry that sounds a bit like some sort of bad Fight Club speech, 1st rule of techno club etc, I now have visions of DJ Ogi throwing Richie Hawtin to the ground saying “no more minimal” ;-)

[aNaLpLeAsEr]

Ideologies are just ideologies at the end of the day.

Big events usually equal stupid ticket prices.

[DannyBlack]

Doesn't matter really. In times of recession we should eat drink and be merry- tomorrow we might die.

[DannyBlack]

Not sure to be honest. I think everything comes and goes in phases. Techno evolved faster than the scene could cope with. Now we're in the settling time. It will be back, but different.

[DannyBlack]

Good question. From my own perspective I think it all started to come apart at the seems 2007ish. That's when I really started to see changes. We had record companies going bust, Vinyl drying up and the digital changeover, record shops going bust and promoters leaving the scene. This is all based on what I saw first hand in my town. I'm sure it differs from local to local.

The recession also kinda tipped it over the edge. It is insanely hard to get people out to a night nowadays unless you have the likes of Green Velvet or Dave Clarke etc etc///

[DannyBlack]

That's trends for you though, they pop up and BLAM they take the place of what you were into before. It is a pain in the neck.

I never really got my head around Trance to be honest. I do have a love of Acid trance though.

[basslinejunkie]

hey mark aka crime. sorry mate.. you have to understand i have to get this arena established first. as it stands on my first crack, the way to do this is use names that ppl in the uk 'rave' scene are gonna know. joey is an obvious one. surgeon is sort of too. chris and h do alot in this country also.

the plan is to get this arena established on this occasion, then we really go to town when dj prices are more reasonable and the newly established converts to the sound trust the arena. it's about building the uk following for this sound...

this is not europe where you can put 'the advent' on and pack a party. uk is ****ed for good techno as you know but putting an arena like this on in a seriously big event with 13 arenas like this is unheard of imho. all we have right now at big events like this is dave clarke's 'electro arena' or sven vath's 'cocoon arena'. it's pitiful. bear with me bro. i actually wanna take this to ALL the big uk events if i can.. but we gotta be clever... we gotta pull ppl from the big events who don't know techno, and then make them realise how good it is...

that way we make a scene in the uk. ok everyone is doing there own thing here in the uk (ie atomic jam/colour/split etc) but we can't deny the fact that we would get thousands upon thousands of ppl from the big events i play at (creamfields/pleasuredome/slammin vinyl - some of which are the biggest parties in the uk) into techno if we get serious arena's on these parties. Alot of these guys are now starting to ask me to put on arenas. But we need to do it cleverly. Call it a kinda underground resistance if you will :)

Welcome your thoughts guys/gals...

you are going about it the right way imo. it is the natrual progression, hardcore / hard trance then techno, thats how i got into it with the likes of ribbz aggressor etc etc and im sure alot of people where introduced to techno the same way.

[ritaheed]

I'd like to add here, that I did actually offer my services, at a reasonable price I might add, dunno if I would have made the line-up any more interesting for you lot, but it just pains me somewhat that I offer people a good deal and then read comments like the last few about what the outcome was... that said, I do feel a bit like yesterdays news these days to be honest, so apologies if it sounds a bit like sour grapes, just feel an opportunity was missed...

ive got alot of your tunes mate - your productions are off the hook, you shouldnt feel like that!!

[FuK-NuT]

lol just stumbled over this thread....

boot time folks ears pricked up too silly fee'z...