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    Quote Originally Posted by SlavikSvensk View Post
    i guess i'm just bitter about the doping culture and what it's done to sport. we live in an age when far more athletes are doping than are being caught for doping...FACT. yet, sheep that we are, we naively assume every time a new hero emerges that somehow, someway, this fella has done it all au natural. but let me give an example...

    you follow baseball, right? if so, then you know then that it wasn't long ago all the baseball commentators were saying things like "barry bonds and all these juicers are ruining the sport. just makes what a-rod has accomplished without any drugs all the more impressive." no matter who made the news for juicing, at least there was still good ol' hard working a-rod!

    then it's revealed a-rod was also on the juice.

    worse for me were the revelations that two of the guys that finally brought a championship back to boston (manny ramirez and david ortiz) failed a drug test in 2003, which major league baseball then hushed up. for people from new england, winning that championship was unreal. something the region had waited 88 years for. tainted for ever. that was the final straw for me.

    so guess i'd say i'm too cynical to believe the hype at the moment...
    Fair enough mate.

    And yup Baseball is in the dumps or was in the dumps for a long time. I started watching it again anyway, I guess that for what it's worth there are guys who just like to crush the ball and to steal the base and to talk baseball and to play baseball for themselves.
    I totally understand about Boston, Kevin Youkilis can never replace Manny. Plus the dodgers are in first place and Manny again somehow plays for your home team, since now you are in LA.
    I get where you are coming from and why you are so gutted. I started watching again cause I love baseball and cause of guys like Rafael Furcal and Ichiro Suzuki, Nelson Cruz, younger guys who seem to love the sport and the technique more then the muscle and the long ball. Again saying that Nelson Cruz was in the HR derby final but he is not a big guy. Baseball is bigger then juicing, and I only figured that out when I started playing baseball with some enthusiasts in my home town. When you start playing you start watching it differently also. Before I also couldn't stand to watch it, so yes I understand your cynicism. I talk to much....
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    Quote Originally Posted by C.O.Prodigy View Post
    Fair enough mate.

    And yup Baseball is in the dumps or was in the dumps for a long time. I started watching it again anyway, I guess that for what it's worth there are guys who just like to crush the ball and to steal the base and to talk baseball and to play baseball for themselves.
    I totally understand about Boston, Kevin Youkilis can never replace Manny. Plus the dodgers are in first place and Manny again somehow plays for your home team, since now you are in LA.
    I get where you are coming from and why you are so gutted. I started watching again cause I love baseball and cause of guys like Rafael Furcal and Ichiro Suzuki, Nelson Cruz, younger guys who seem to love the sport and the technique more then the muscle and the long ball. Again saying that Nelson Cruz was in the HR derby final but he is not a big guy. Baseball is bigger then juicing, and I only figured that out when I started playing baseball with some enthusiasts in my home town. When you start playing you start watching it differently also. Before I also couldn't stand to watch it, so yes I understand your cynicism. I talk to much....
    i agree with most of what you are saying. it IS bigger than the juicing. it's just such a shame that MLB and the players union deliberately put their heads in the sand on the juicing rumors and refused to do anything about it until forced to.

    youk is pretty damned good, but yeah, manny is one of the best power hitters of his era. we looked like we were doing well without him, but then daisuke and a couple other pitchers got hurt, and jason bay got into a slump, so now we're struggling to get the wild card. but have a chance to get revenge on the yankees this weekend!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlavikSvensk View Post
    it's just such a shame that MLB and the players union deliberately put their heads in the sand on the juicing rumors and refused to do anything about it until forced to.
    100% Agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by SlavikSvensk View Post
    youk is pretty damned good, but yeah, manny is one of the best power hitters of his era. we looked like we were doing well without him, but then daisuke and a couple other pitchers got hurt, and jason bay got into a slump, so now we're struggling to get the wild card. but have a chance to get revenge on the yankees this weekend!
    Hope to catch some of action. Although I have been following the dodgers this season and they seem to be playing same great ball. It's pretty cool that you can catch some of their games over there since they are the best team in baseball this season.

    ps.. - back on topic..

    Usain Bolt wins the 200M event, breaks world record again. World record now stands at 19.19. Unbelievable, outrages, legend!

    If he is juicing, time will show it. If he is not, I think that time will show that aswell. For now, he is the best by a long long way and we are all privileged to be a part of his magick.
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