Techno wiki page

[DannyBlack]

well, i asked for opinions so let them fly :)



there are some real gems from detroit. also a bunch of stinkers and overrated "classics." but there's a sense of freedom in a lot of early techno--not just from detroit--that i miss. however, a lot sounds too dated for most people nowadays. but some guys, like rob hood, were making music that still sounds really fresh today.

i bring him up because a lot of his records have been rereleased recently, and it blows most of today's minimal out of the water.

I think what put me off was the local record shop. I remember getting my wages on a Friday and rushing into town with butterflies in my tummy and a turtle head emerging- literally close to crapping with excitement only to be met with UR releases.

I just couldn't get my head around why they were so popular. It was alien to me.

Now there is stuff in my collection that is counted as Detroit I think- Shari Vari- a bloody wonderful track. Then I have preacher man and smatterings of Jeff mills and Mr. Hood. But on the whole I never quite got it.

I agree on the modern minimal point- Modern Minimal I find and I guess why I am so apposed, is incredibly formulaic and churned out. Even 'Plastik man' stuff annoys me.

I know that isn't modern minimal but bloody hell it is so boring. Of course this is my opinion- so please don't hit me haha

[The_Laughing_Man]

I agree on the modern minimal point- Modern Minimal I find and I guess why I am so apposed, is incredibly formulaic and churned out. Even 'Plastik man' stuff annoys me.

Now I`m not exactly standing in for mnml here, I like it, but then I like lots of music, and generally I applaud any experimentation and development.

IT`s odd you say mnml is formulaic and churned out, I guess the mainstream stuff is, yes, but you can say that about the mainstream of any genre.

In fact I have found, and still do find more experimentation and innovation in terms of sounds and techniques within mnml than in hard techno.
This is unfortunate, and part of the demise of harder techno I think, as it looped itself into obivion.
I would actually say hard techno is probably the most formulaic at the mo.
It shouldn`t be, but it is.
Same sounds, same patterns, little experimentation, lack of attention to detail.

I wish it would change.

[DannyBlack]

Now I`m not exactly standing in for mnml here, I like it, but then I like lots of music, and generally I applaud any experimentation and development.

IT`s odd you say mnml is formulaic and churned out, I guess the mainstream stuff is, yes, but you can say that about the mainstream of any genre.

In fact I have found, and still do find more experimentation and innovation in terms of sounds and techniques within mnml than in hard techno.
This is unfortunate, and part of the demise of harder techno I think, as it looped itself into obivion.
I would actually say hard techno is probably the most formulaic at the mo.
It shouldn`t be, but it is.
Same sounds, same patterns, little experimentation, lack of attention to detail.

I wish it would change.

Yep- I need to be more specific with my statement. I do absolutely refer to the main stream.

But the experimentation you refer to, the creepy eerie dark stuff- I love. In fact, thats what I find myself leaning towards. Its slow, it allows to put more in and get more out. Hard techno to me is kind of- well for playing at parties I guess.

When I mix at home I stick to the off beat, stripped down music. Alex Bau- the Arms stuff, audio assaults, right through to Jay Pace's stuff. Is THAT minimal?

[davethedrummer]

yeah it's bit top heavy isn't it ?
loads about detroit around the cleavage area
a bit of minimal and rave around the waist
followed by a scantily clad wonky / hardcore bit down below

if that article were a woman
she'd have fallen over by now