i agree with Steve on the BCF2000, the mackie mode on it is great and to have flying faders at that cheap price too!!! it's a great alternative to the full blown mackie control at a really cheap price, perfect for bringing to gigs. I had the uc33e and found the midi on it lagged a bit. the apc40 is an amazing unit, but i don't like how it has a limited number of send knobs (for the way i do my live pa's), i'll wait till max for live comes out to get the apc maybe. reprogramming that slut is going to be fun.