reverb plugins

**The_Laughing_Man** · 03-10-2009, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by rhythmtech

SOS didnt review the pro version yet. its a total engine re-write, you should have a look at it.

anyway, comparing their A80 to the reel (:lol:) thing is pretty close. it has that depth and warmth - i still prefer to use fatso though.

i dont know what compressor model you tried but theres not 1 that i liked. some of the trident consoles are stunning and the API console path is just beautiful.

tape isn`t just about saturation though, it`s about the compression that comes with it.
All tape emulations do is add an eq curve for tone and then saturation.
Volta Kernals can`t do the randomness, you`d need to plug your sampling device in permanently to the tape machine.

**rhythmtech** · 03-10-2009, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by The_Laughing_Man

tape isn`t just about saturation though, it`s about the compression that comes with it.
All tape emulations do is add an eq curve for tone and then saturation.
Volta Kernals can`t do the randomness, you`d need to plug your sampling device in permanently to the tape machine.

no you cant get the randomness but you can program randomness over a period of time. and i agree that theres a lot more to the tape sound than just the warmth but with all things ITB there has to be a little comprimise and a bit of working around the problem to achieve similiar results..

having said that i wouldnt dream of replacing a tape machine with nebula but as a 2nd best its pretty sweet.

you should definitly try the nat4 pro upgrade with the new engine. if you own version 3 then its only 20euro to update it.

**The_Laughing_Man** · 03-10-2009, 02:46 PM

I`ve been searching for a good tape emulation for ages.
Talk on gearslut says that one day Nebula might get it right (Version 4????) but that no one has captured the compression artefact of tape.
I`d dearly love to be able to stop using tape, it`s heavy, time consuming (half an hour a day to clean and calibrate the machine) expensive to maintain (and tape isn`t cheap), slow to implement, and of course you then have noise removal to do, but it sounds soooo nice.

I think the best thing going is the McDSP AC-2. I`ve heard pretty good results on it.
Still not right though.

One day, it will be sorted. There is something nice about tinkering with the inside of tape machines though. It`s like working on a car, very satisfying.

I`ve been toying with the idea of going into business doing tape machine renovation as you can pick up less than healthy machines for good money.
If you get them up to spec you can make like £1500 to £2000 profit if you buy right.

**rhythmtech** · 03-10-2009, 09:03 PM

AC2 is quite nice and it does add the compression. also being able to control the bias and low end bump is quite nice. only problem is that its PT only, which is fine but not everyone likes PT (dunno why though!)

**The_Laughing_Man** · 07-10-2009, 03:28 PM

Been using Breverb quite a bit, and it really is very good.
Also IK Multimedia Classic Studio Reverb. COmmonly used by professionals, very very good.

blueeye · 07-10-2009, 06:16 PM

the free one ambience is very nice

**rhythmtech** · 07-10-2009, 06:26 PM

my go to reverbs these days

UAD plate 140 & UAD EMT 250

**josephjobling** · 08-10-2009, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by rhythmtech

AC2 is quite nice and it does add the compression. also being able to control the bias and low end bump is quite nice. only problem is that its PT only, which is fine but not everyone likes PT (dunno why though!)

ha ha ha rt you're turning into one of those .......nothing else exits exept pro tools ha ha ha just pulling yer leg :)

**rhythmtech** · 08-10-2009, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by josephjobling

ha ha ha rt you're turning into one of those .......nothing else exits exept pro tools ha ha ha just pulling yer leg :)

thats quite alright.. you're kinda right :lol:

i just couldnt go back to anything else for doing my mixes now.

writing is a differant story though. protools is horrible for midi, even with the upgrade to 8! i still write in cubase.

**BloodStar** · 09-10-2009, 02:25 PM

just got an idea of preparing kind of reverb blind test for you.

will prepare 3 type of sounds and then apply different type of reverb on each (early, room, hall),. indeed there will be several brands involved, so i will mimic the settings from brand to brand..

let see what each of you will like without know what brand it is. :-]

**BloodStar** · 09-10-2009, 02:35 PM

Will test following 10 reverb units: (let me know other i should use)

112db Redline Reverb
Bootsy epic verb
Breverb
D16 Toraverb
IK classic Reverb
Smart Electronix Ambience
Sonic Flavours R66
Sonnox Oxford Reverb
Voxengo Pristine Space
Wizzo W2

**josephjobling** · 10-10-2009, 11:22 AM

sounds like a plan - my money is on the sonnox :)

**rhythmtech** · 10-10-2009, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by BloodStar

Will test following 10 reverb units: (let me know other i should use)

112db Redline Reverb
Bootsy epic verb
Breverb
D16 Toraverb
IK classic Reverb
Smart Electronix Ambience
Sonic Flavours R66
Sonnox Oxford Reverb
Voxengo Pristine Space
Wizzo W2

my money is on breverb. shame you cant put 2c aether in there as it will blow them all out of the water.

or the new lexicon plugin verb... but thats $1500 and has the pcm96 algorithms.

**The_Laughing_Man** · 10-10-2009, 06:22 PM

IR verbs are the best I suppose, depending on your needs, you just need to get good impulse responses.
Breverb is good, but it`s a little silly comparing it to some of the others as they serve different purposes.
No different to hardware, different plugs have different characters applicable to different needs.

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