What the fuk....

[Methodixxx]

It's only so I have a chance getting with you Jimmy boy! :love:




Haha! ;)

[Spooney]

Well I'm fed up of techno being classed as an underground style of dance music in this country. this is the only country it is classed as as being underground. i see it a good move that people like andy farley are playing techno tracks in HH clubs. They HH scene is dying off they are coming over to techno. and so are the crowds. It's good for the scene more people at techno nights. i have had Nick Rafferty Play a techno set at one of my nights and he played a **** good set. Plus it brought in a whole load of clubbers that don't usually come to my night.

So just because it's not classed as underground in other countries means it shouldn't be classed as it here? Personally I love the word underground and to me it's not just a word it's a genuine passion. **** your super clubs with 2000 capacity full of ppl that aren't really that into there music. Id rather be in a dark dingy 400-500 capacity club with an electric atmosphere created by everyone having it to the music they love, thats underground to me! Anyway techno will always remain underground as long as ppl who pioneer the sound keep it that way!

[jonnyspeed]

techno purists are gay

[Spooney]

techno purists are gay

Harsh words mate :lol:

[gumpy green]

From what I've heard some Scotish clubs do have issues with twats in 'ben shermans and rockport' beer boys invading good nights - so I can understand wanting to protect the scene but to strike out at our HH brothers is not very constructive.

In London its a real Hienz 57 varieties and so long as its 'avin it its a good party. I think its therefore pointless arguing what is or isn't techno when actually all peeps are saying is that london techno ain't alway tribal, progressive or minimal - dunt stop it from being techno even if a HH producer is getting involved.

BOA is not really the place for this argument. Can we agree to disagree and talk about what we like? And if you don't, start a new post talking about something you do. Its like of the rules of the board.

Peace.

man. but im grumpy green (if i coulve spelt my name right when registering.)

I was just at the wind up anyway.....

[MARKEG]

last year i gave andy farley a copy of my 'club experiments' cd. i was on before him, and i had a load in my box and i thought **** it.. sure it's a cd full of techno shit but perhaps he'll like it. he saw me the next time and he almost jumped over himself to thank me.

i like andy farley. i think he's been labelled. like me.. he's played to try to get his message across in whatever he could - a load of ppl have liked him for this and the press/ppl dont even care about his roots - yet he still loves what he loves. i'd love to get him on here to talk about this actually - it's a subject close to my heart. In fact he gave me his msn but i've lost it. Grrrr.. Anyone know this info? We need to get him on here.

[Tony]

purist and proud!!! ha haa!!

stu:: i would agree with oyu that techno is still underground here, and it could certainly do with a lot more full clubs and even a greater acceptance in commercial circles, but this must NOT come from people who start out with one thing, cane it til its dead, then try and come back to something - not even rejoining, but trying to morph their way back in to a scene by collaborations.
there are plenty of techno djs out there who have been at it FOR LIFE. they wont drop it when the next fad comes along. andy farley will no doubt do well, as his career has attained an amount of perpetual motion. yet if this is the person to 'bring techno to a whole new crowd', well that makes me cringe. there are far more worthy candidates to present techno to people than 'some sundissential resident with a box of primate', eugh!!! (miaow!!)
we want to fill your club full of techno people who are there to stop the robots screaming in their head and let their imagination explode. hard house people are out to take drugs and live life inside a marshmellow. some HH kids will see, for want of a better phrase, 'the darkside', but i'd love the clubs to be more full of people who shared the appreciation of the music, instead of the appreciation of the drug culture.
i'm sure these guys can dj, lets face it, mixing hard house must be such easy money. its like sticking lego bricks together, such simplified sounds and patterns. I could double copy that shit to death and actually make it interesting. in fact......................whaT THE **** HAVE I BEEN DOING ALL THIS TIME, I COULD MAKE A BLOODY FORTUNE!!!

[MARKEG]

i know you posted this tony before you saw my reply there but i'm almost convinced this guy has alot deeper histroy than we know. i could see something in his eyes when he thanked me. we need to get hold of him..... i'll try to sort this out this weekend.

[Methodixxx]

Mark, check your pm's...

[Si the Sigh]

Mark, check your pm's...

...have you sent him some cake?

[Tony]

i know you posted this tony before you saw my reply there but i'm almost convinced this guy has alot deeper histroy than we know. i could see something in his eyes when he thanked me. we need to get hold of him..... i'll try to sort this out this weekend.

understood mark, but i'm sure you can appreciate my sentiment, even if the person in question may have more credibility than his public persona would tell.
we cant deny that there is a considerable shift in music tastes as the over exerted scenes of fashion realise that that road of big bucks leads to a shorter lifespan over all. i'd much prefer to see you or i getting more and more gigs cos we've stuck at it. we've known what styles we love for years, and we could be considered true bastiens (careful) of the scene.
maybe andy is a great guy, but merely on evidience of the subject matter in this thread, you can understand why i'd be questioning.

hey, theres a prize for anyone who can find a thread on the net where HH people are slagging off DJS for jumping off of the HH bandwagon and on to the techno one. do the kids really care in that scene?? certainly not as much as we do!!!!

[Paul Zykotik]

I fail to see why someone should fail to understand "techno" if they play other styles. Have the people on here who are slagging Farley off considered that he had never heard much techno before, liked what he did hear, and wishes to pursue it? And at the same time he still loves hard house, so he'll wish to pursue that too? Why the hell should anyone have to apply themselves exclusively to one genre? Maybe he has an appreciation for all sorts of music...believe it or not some of us who like to stroke our chins over production also like to jump around like madmen at other parties too.

Purists...the only thing wrong with techno.

[Esox Lucius]

imo the people who get labelled "purists" are the ones who have the real passion for techno & want to keep the scene real.

it seems that if you dis anyone who you dont think is techno you get called a "purist" nowadays...

[Paul Zykotik]

It's seems that anyone who doesn't have a birthmark the shape of Detroit isn't "real" these days...

[Esox Lucius]

yes I agree, mine is on my arse, I also have a scar in the shape of atkin's face too...

but let's face it, no one does it like the detroit boys, and never will ;) that IS techno ;)

[Paul Zykotik]

To elaborate further...

I'm sick of people pre-judging others on the basis of their background. Wait and see what they put out, what their approach is. I can't say I care for Andy Farley's main taste in music, but I am interested to see if he's able to put something into the techno he puts out.

Techno in my experience is an acquired taste...it's not as readily marketable or as obvious as other genres. I know very few people who can take or leave techno, either they love it or they find it staggeringly dull. Is it not nearly two years now since techno dj's started playing at hard house events? In fact even further back...I seem to remember Hydraulix 9 being a massive anthem on the hard house scene. Yet the much-touted onslaught of commercialism still hasn't materialised. That's because to me techno isn't as obvious as other genres. There's no short term fix of euphoria as with hard trance or hard house, it's something that you really have to get right into before you really appreciate what's going on. And for most people, they don't have the patience to do that. Which is why I say fair play to Andy Farley, because he's obviously heard it and seen the positives it offers.

[Stuart]

Well I'm fed up of techno being classed as an underground style of dance music in this country. this is the only country it is classed as as being underground. i see it a good move that people like andy farley are playing techno tracks in HH clubs. They HH scene is dying off they are coming over to techno. and so are the crowds. It's good for the scene more people at techno nights. i have had Nick Rafferty Play a techno set at one of my nights and he played a **** good set. Plus it brought in a whole load of clubbers that don't usually come to my night.

Totally disagree......

Where i live thers enuf tek heads to fill our clubs anyway-ther pretty much always filled.......also when a group of these folk come your music enjoyment is spoilt buy chants of "here wi, here wi, here wi fukin go".

About that bringing in loads more punters.......that what im talking about....who cares how much money you can make from them.

I don't make any money the parties I do are free.

cool m8........sorry for that asumption.

Did they chant "here wi, here wi, here wi fukin go" tho'.

No

[Spooney]

Techno in my experience is an acquired taste...it's not as readily marketable or as obvious as other genres. I know very few people who can take or leave techno, either they love it or they find it staggeringly dull. Is it not nearly two years now since techno dj's started playing at hard house events? In fact even further back...I seem to remember Hydraulix 9 being a massive anthem on the hard house scene. Yet the much-touted onslaught of commercialism still hasn't materialised. That's because to me techno isn't as obvious as other genres. There's no short term fix of euphoria as with hard trance or hard house, it's something that you really have to get right into before you really appreciate what's going on. And for most people, they don't have the patience to do that. Which is why I say fair play to Andy Farley, because he's obviously heard it and seen the positives it offers.

Well said mate :clap:

[spiralx]

Totally agree with Paul Zykotik :clap: You're not born a techno lover, you find out about it somewhere, and everyone will have been into something different beforehand, even if it isn't dance music. Look at the thread about heavy metal and how a lot of people here used to be into that. When you found out about techno were you bandwagon jumping when you started to get into it? No. You'd just found out about it.

Similarly for whatever reason people are starting to hear more techno, and perhaps some of them are getting into it. They're not bandwagon jumping, they're experiencing something different and developing an appreciation for it. What's wrong with that? We've all got to start somewhere and like others have said, it'd be nice if there was more techno in this country and we didn't see nights closing down all the time.

And I still don't understand what people talk about when they say these people don't "get" techno. Is there some secret code I've been missing? :roll: Techno moves me emotionally and makes me want to dance like a loon, is there something else that I need to "get" techno?

[Paul Zykotik]

Totally agree with Paul Zykotik :clap: You're not born a techno lover, you find out about it somewhere, and everyone will have been into something different beforehand, even if it isn't dance music. Look at the thread about heavy metal and how a lot of people here used to be into that. When you found out about techno were you bandwagon jumping when you started to get into it? No. You'd just found out about it.

Similarly for whatever reason people are starting to hear more techno, and perhaps some of them are getting into it. They're not bandwagon jumping, they're experiencing something different and developing an appreciation for it. What's wrong with that? We've all got to start somewhere and like others have said, it'd be nice if there was more techno in this country and we didn't see nights closing down all the time.

And I still don't understand what people talk about when they say these
people don't "get" techno. Is there some secret code I've been missing? :roll: Techno moves me emotionally and makes me want to dance like a loon, is there something else that I need to "get" techno?

And you're absolutely spot on with that as well mate :)