What the fuk....

[gumpy green]

Well I'm fed up of techno being classed as an underground style of dance music in this country. this is the only country it is classed as as being underground. i see it a good move that people like andy farley are playing techno tracks in HH clubs. They HH scene is dying off they are coming over to techno. and so are the crowds. It's good for the scene more people at techno nights. i have had Nick Rafferty Play a techno set at one of my nights and he played a **** good set. Plus it brought in a whole load of clubbers that don't usually come to my night.

Totally disagree......

Where i live thers enuf tek heads to fill our clubs anyway-ther pretty much always filled.......also when a group of these folk come your music enjoyment is spoilt buy chants of "here wi, here wi, here wi fukin go".

About that bringing in loads more punters.......that what im talking about....who cares how much money you can make from them.

I don't make any money the parties I do are free.

cool m8........sorry for that asumption.

Did they chant "here wi, here wi, here wi fukin go" tho'.

No

ahh they must have not been the hardhouse purists you had then.....

ya better get judge jules next time....

imo the people who get labelled "purists" are the ones who have the real passion for techno & want to keep the scene real.

it seems that if you dis anyone who you dont think is techno you get called a "purist" nowadays...

i know but the folk doing the labelling are not the purists so who gives a fuk...ther prob listening to BXR's or summin. Theyll never water down the scene-ther far to many that wont play ther way........

..i luv the fact that techno is underground and hard to really get into.
Makes those that really do make the effort appreciated it sooo much more than having every tom dick and harry....

[Stuart]

Well I'm fed up of techno being classed as an underground style of dance music in this country. this is the only country it is classed as as being underground. i see it a good move that people like andy farley are playing techno tracks in HH clubs. They HH scene is dying off they are coming over to techno. and so are the crowds. It's good for the scene more people at techno nights. i have had Nick Rafferty Play a techno set at one of my nights and he played a **** good set. Plus it brought in a whole load of clubbers that don't usually come to my night.

Totally disagree......

Where i live thers enuf tek heads to fill our clubs anyway-ther pretty much always filled.......also when a group of these folk come your music enjoyment is spoilt buy chants of "here wi, here wi, here wi fukin go".

About that bringing in loads more punters.......that what im talking about....who cares how much money you can make from them.

I don't make any money the parties I do are free.

cool m8........sorry for that asumption.

Did they chant "here wi, here wi, here wi fukin go" tho'.

No

ahh they must have not been the hardhouse purists you had then.....

ya better get judge jules next time....

imo the people who get labelled "purists" are the ones who have the real passion for techno & want to keep the scene real.

it seems that if you dis anyone who you dont think is techno you get called a "purist" nowadays...

i know but the folk doing the labelling are not the purists so who gives a fuk...ther prob listening to BXR's or summin. Theyll never water down the scene-ther far to many that wont play ther way........

..i luv the fact that techno is underground and hard to really get into.
Makes those that really do make the effort appreciated it sooo much more than having every tom dick and harry....

**** judge jules he's a first class c Unt

[Paul Zykotik]

..i luv the fact that techno is underground and hard to really get into.
Makes those that really do make the effort appreciated it sooo much more than having every tom dick and harry....

Exactly, so what makes you think Andy Farley is getting into it for a reason other than this? Why is he less likely than you or I to really appreciate it?

[gumpy green]

..i luv the fact that techno is underground and hard to really get into.
Makes those that really do make the effort appreciated it sooo much more than having every tom dick and harry....

Exactly, so what makes you think Andy Farley is getting into it for a reason other than this? Why is he less likely than you or I to really appreciate it?

We will just have to see......... the boy might actually do some good for techno , i dont know.............time will tell.

All im saying is that what ive seen him do so far i woudnt want the same to happen with techno.

But you watch he'll prob get hyped up and worshiped wi HH fans more than a top techno boy.........what does that say.

and judge is not a cunt...hes the best.

[Esox Lucius]

andy farley done them hard house nation cd's, that is enough to put me off anyone.

[jonnyspeed]

I moved from hardcore to techno. Fu*k me, DAVE the Drummer moved from soft rock or summit to techno didnt he?!? :lol:

squat rock to squat techno. He was the drummer in Back to the Planet and Geezer was the keyboard player.

[eyes without a face]

its the same classic argument here people!

an artist from another scene jumping on the bandwagon that is techno. An artist who comes from a quite obviously stale scene, a scene overrun with in my opinion some of the most musically inept artists (if they deserve that title) that ive ever had the misfortune to come across!!!!

Picotto did it, Fergie did it and now its Andy Farleys having a bash at it. YAWWWWWNNNNNN!!!!

im sorry, he maybe the nicest bloke in the world and have a real love for techno, but just think about it. If he has this deep love of techno that a few have pointed out, what the hell was he playing at carving a career out of hard house? there are only 2 words that come to mind. One is SELL, the other is OUT. If the guy loved his techno so much for years, why didnt he channel what little talent he may have into techno productio, djing or promotions instead of flogging the well and truely dying horse that is hard house?

ive had enough of this s.hit and i dont want to know if Andy Farley or Lish Lashes or any of those pricks are starting to play techno. This has really got my goat up now.

I could name literaly hundreds of Djs (most unheard of) who love techno and play with a genuine love of the music and the people they are playing for.

F.uck all that commercial HH bollocks. No offence to Henry as he has proved himself with his music, but i dont even want to hear the record.

[Tony]

..i luv the fact that techno is underground and hard to really get into.
Makes those that really do make the effort appreciated it sooo much more than having every tom dick and harry....

Exactly, so what makes you think Andy Farley is getting into it for a reason other than this? Why is he less likely than you or I to really appreciate it?

the only thing that would say as why, is because he's just spent the last god knows how many years up to his neck in utter cheese IMO. for me its more to with the comparison of techno - hard house, punk - nu metal. the one is a lifestyle that is a catalyst for society, one is a really treacle covered, pretend rebellion, harder, faster, fad, that will be remembered for what it did. techno is a lifestyle as well as a music, it is something that can be bolied down to the similarities of punk, hip hop, electro, dnb. proper diy lifestyle, make it work as best you can.
hard house, on the other hand, is a load of mad muppets in a big room, going whaaaa these pills are good, mong mong, automotive music, imagination content as stimulation 0% it takes you to a super fluffy space. now, i love super hard techno, but understand the intimidation factor, but nowadays i want to even be talked to by by a dj, not boingee boingee, i live in marshmellow land...??!?!

someone who was into that music may have skills, but what the fudging fudge has he been doing all that time. that to me, if he was into techno and has roots in techno, was selling his soul.

[eyes without a face]

but nowadays i want to even be talked to by by a dj, not boingee boingee, i live in marshmellow land...??!?!

haha class

i agree with Tony 100% there people, the man speaks sense.

[Col]

from what i can gather andy farley is just another image obsessed egotistical dj/producer. ive seen him posing in magazines like hes "the man" and the countless cheesy predictable rubbish hes churned out on some of the big commercial labels signifys what this guy is all about.

and the "trying to make techno more popular" "get it out to a wide audience" comments anger me, why cant people understand that popularity is a bad thing? especially when it concerns techno. it just doesnt make any sense whatsoever.

[jonnyspeed]

Go on have a listen. Sure seems like a HH vs. acid tech structure with a techn drumkit and analogue lines.

http://www.bangingtunes.com/itemdeta...ItemID=VCRN001

or

http://www.bangingtunes.com/mp3/vcrn001_A.mp3
http://www.bangingtunes.com/mp3/vcrn001_B.mp3

Prefer the one on Low Rent Operator 7, through the trance on the A is not to my taste...
http://www.bangingtunes.com/mp3/lrox007_B.mp3

[eyes without a face]

links dont work mate

[jonnyspeed]

oh yes they do!

[Spooney]

Saw the drummer play last night...he played a tune he did with farley and it went down really well

[Col]

from what i can gather andy farley is just another image obsessed egotistical dj/producer. ive seen him posing in magazines like hes "the man" and the countless cheesy predictable rubbish hes churned out on some of the big commercial labels signifys what this guy is all about.

and the "trying to make techno more popular" "get it out to a wide audience" comments anger me, why cant people understand that popularity is a bad thing? especially when it concerns techno. it just doesnt make any sense whatsoever.

i apoligise. i got farley mixed up with BK, but even then, the majority of my earlier comments still apply.

[slavestudios]

jus checked out the single in question.

first track seems like bouncy techno/hardhouse. second track seems a'ite

techno wont go overground. Umek & Dave Clarke & Fergie can bang away at the Prime stuff. the 'underground crew will be keepin it tight with the future of techno... Amok, Wittekind, McCormack, Natus & all the ppl like me that run nights for the love & for the sheer joy. not cos its 'cool' or makes more money or cos were bored of anything else... cos we love what we do...

ok, i can see fergie or Clarke hittin top 40, but can u see the likes of Amoks Urban Rampage ep going pop ? dont think so...

sure McAffers doin trax on Mukleuz etc, so why the freak out about Farley ?

who cares at the end of the day ? (not in a disrespectful way) let the guy have his shot. when hes on the same bill as Liebing etc, then u can worry :lol:


my club site http://www.perpetualelectronic.co.uk/

[Stuart]

This debate or argument is one that will never be resolved everyones opinions are different and always will be, But all these are, are opinions you can stamp your feet, shout from the roof tops. These opinions fall on deaf ears. I ****ing hate Tony Blair and the Labour party, I can shout about that but does anyone care thats just my opinion, they still remain the parlimentary seat.
My point is what ever you say on here isn't going to matter, its a message board. If Lisa Lashes was playing techno at techno nights and pulling in 2000 + people for the promoter she will get repeat bookings.
If all off the hard house DJ's decided they were going to play Techno do you think they really care what you say or what you think of them doing that. If suddenly the hard house scene dies and techno becomes the new hard house do you think that you sitting at a desk posting messages on a message board will make the slightest bit of difference.
You should all be greatful for how strong the techno scene is, Cherish things you love, share them with everyone that way they will never die.
People come from all roots into it FFS what style of music did you grow up with ? When did you get into techno? How did you get into techno? Have you ever played another style of music?
At some point in your life you "JUMPED ON THE TECHO BANDWAGON".
People do this every day/weekend.
I eat sleep breathe techno. But I have an open mind. It's not mine it doesn't belong to me, so whats the ****ing problem.

Techno is a form of music, some people listen to it whilst others live for it. no matter who you are your keeping it alive.

[slavestudios]

respect Stuart.

thread over

[Paul Zykotik]

Aye, well said Stuart. It's too easy to get drawn into these arguments and forget we're supposed to be enjoying the music we love!

[davethedrummer]

thank you stuart
very well said