**** MINIMAL

[The_Laughing_Man]

I'd like to publicly apologise to everyone for my statements above. At the time I honestly didn't think this group would have been started by Ben but I've just found out it has been. My reaction was based around the fact I thought this was some bored kid wanting attention.

Ben is someone I respect massively and if that's the way he feels, that's the way he feels. He definitely has the authority in my book to voice his opinion on a Facebook group.

Sorry guys.

*Mark crawls back under his rock*

what difference does it make that Sims started the post? You were against it until then.
Some bored kids opinion is just as valid as Sims. He`s just a man.
No point back peddling for political reasons, Ben is a big man, I`m sure he can cope with someone disagreeing with him (he is an essex boy after all, where calling your mate a wanker can be a term of endearment), it doesn`t mean you ****ed his mum.
Retracting your statement just because the page was started by Sims ends up appearing a bit, erm, false.

[MARK ANXIOUS]

what difference does it make that Sims started the post? You were against it until then.
Some bored kids opinion is just as valid as Sims. He`s just a man.
No point back peddling for political reasons, Ben is a big man, I`m sure he can cope with someone disagreeing with him (he is an essex boy after all, where calling your mate a wanker can be a term of endearment), it doesn`t mean you ****ed his mum.
Retracting your statement just because the page was started by Sims ends up appearing a bit, erm, false.

i totally see what you're saying there. but the plain fact is, if i knew it was ben that started that, i don't think i would have layed into it with such force and in that tone, cause i know him and i respect him. the last thing i want to do on the net is start a web slag match with ppl i actually respect. i thought it was some silly jumped up kid with with a hidden agenda who just had a bee in his bonnet.. that's the way the comments on the front page of the group came across to me when i clicked the link. i should have researched more but i didnt have the time to flick through every page....

i still believe setting up a club against a certain group of ppl is a totally negative, wrong way of doing things. you simply can't pigeon hole all the dj's who've jumped ship like that. since i've realised this was ben i've checked the site more and i actually do agree with alot of what is said in the info page, but it's all said in a negative, conflict inducing way that is gonna achieve nothing imho. i'm not apologising for the principles of what i'm saying, i'm just apologising for the way i said it...

look, surely there is a better way of getting this **** minimal point across???? that, is the whole reason is set up the 'MINIMAL [NO HYPE]' forum up....

[The_Laughing_Man]

i totally see what you're saying there. but the plain fact is, if i knew it was ben that started that, i don't think i would have layed into it with such force and in that tone, cause i know him and i respect him. the last thing i want to do on the net is start a web slag match with ppl i actually respect. i thought it was some silly jumped up kid with with a hidden agenda who just had a bee in his bonnet.. that's the way the comments on the front page of the group came across to me when i clicked the link. i should have researched more but i didnt have the time to flick through every page....

i still believe setting up a club against a certain group of ppl is a totally negative, wrong way of doing things. you simply can't pigeon hole all the dj's who've jumped ship like that. since i've realised this was ben i've checked the site more and i actually do agree with alot of what is said in the info page, but it's all said in a negative, conflict inducing way that is gonna achieve nothing imho. i'm not apologising for the principles of what i'm saying, i'm just apologising for the way i said it...

look, surely there is a better way of getting this **** minimal point across???? that, is the whole reason is set up the 'MINIMAL [NO HYPE]' forum up....

Ironically, Sims plays minimal in his sets anyway.
I`m sure the man is just having a laugh.