FIFA Fiddle World Cup Qualification Process

[SlavikSvensk]

I think, if you're talking about the qualifying groups, that they were seeded fo'sho. What do you think of changing rules mid competition?

maybe you're right, i did find this for 2014

http://www.football-rankings.info/20...r-uefa_21.html

[DarkYoung]

as long as the USA, Israel, Germany, Brazil, France get through, they couldn't give a ****. Serbia has qualified so why should you care?

at least FIFA don't grant footballing rights to phoney states like Kosovo, eh C.O?

[C.O.Prodigy]

DY, that's the whole point.
FiFa represents itself as a football governing body but in fact is unveiled as the very poison which is bringing politics into football. Sport and politics do not mix well together and imo shouldn't be associated with each other. By this despicable act of politicizing football FiFa is showing that it doesn't really know footy and worse doesn't care for it. All football teams should get equal treatment so that footballing styles have space to evolve and the fans have the opportunity to see the best, "eco" football.

Changing rules in the middle of the competition seems rather desperate and against the rules. Stand up and be counted, what do you say?

[DarkYoung]

DY, that's the whole point.
FiFa represents itself as a football governing body but in fact is unveiled as the very poison which is bringing politics into football. Sport and politics do not mix well together and imo shouldn't be associated with each other. By this despicable act of politicizing football FiFa is showing that it doesn't really know footy and worse doesn't care for it. All football teams should get equal treatment so that footballing styles have space to evolve and the fans have the opportunity to see the best, "eco" football.

Changing rules in the middle of the competition seems rather desperate and against the rules. Stand up and be counted, what do you say?

im not sure what your point is, because teams have always been seeded and ranked.

i understand that it's these knock out games that will be done in a seeded way now.

what difference does it make? if a team is good enough to be in the world cup they should be able to field a team which can be competetive against any other team.

all sport is corrupt. like in serbia u have the mafia, in the free west we have the FIA, or IOC, or FIFA. This is just a global franchise in the guise of globalisation but really controlled by a Zionist elite. lIke the UN, EU, USA etc
It's about as fair and noble as the Miss World competition, for example.

[C.O.Prodigy]

im not sure what your point is, because teams have always been seeded and ranked.

i understand that it's these knock out games that will be done in a seeded way now.

For a start of a competition yes but not in the middle of it, at least it should be done in the middle of it.
For example in 1998 WC in France the 2nd place playoff wasn't seeded and just a regular draw was made which was very fair imo.
The point is even if the playoffs were supposed to be seeded from the start of qualifying that was not made clear by Fifa, actually they were not supposed to be. So now that they "fiddle" with the seeding of the teams for playoffs, that just makes it pathetic. If they said from the start that they were going to be seeded I wouldn't have brought any of this up.

all sport is corrupt. like in serbia u have the mafia, in the free west we have the FIA, or IOC, or FIFA. This is just a global franchise in the guise of globalisation but really controlled by a Zionist elite. lIke the UN, EU, USA etc
It's about as fair and noble as the Miss World competition, for example.

Well that just sucks, and it makes it less football and more political science.

seriously, guys, it's about money.

Well the World Cup can be bought and that's not really kicking the ball.
Some filthy money has already gone into this seeding playoffs stuff, I just wanted to point that out.

[C.O.Prodigy]

Judging by this national teams coefficient overview, the teams who made it to the 2nd place playoffs in Europe rank as follows :

1) Russia
2) France
3) Portugal
4) Greece
5) Ukraine
6) Rep. Of Ireland
7) Bosnia and H.
8) Slovenia

Now if Fifa wants to employ the seeding system I think that the teams should play like they do in the NBA playoffs 1-8 2-7 3-6 and so on, so that would make the possible match ups look like this:

Russia - Slovenia
France - Bosnia
Portugal - Ireland
Greece - Ukraine

I'll be damned to see what matchups fifa comes up with and how they rationalize them. What I proposed in the posts above is that they just do a regular draw(8 balls in one pot) and play football, only since Fifa made the last minute change about seeding.

[SlavikSvensk]

Well the World Cup can be bought and that's not really kicking the ball.
Some filthy money has already gone into this seeding playoffs stuff, I just wanted to point that out.

for better or for worse, fifa wants all the big guns there--england, france, germany, spain, portugal, italy, argentina and brazil. next they as many of the the medium-sized and the "big but not so rich" markets as possible, e.g. russia, mexico, portugal, netherlands, nigeria, australia, japan, south korea, south africa, etc. then the "potential bonanza, just not there yet" countries like the US, because they want football to be big there, but also know it's possible to wait 4 years to make it happen. don't think they are too bothered about any of the rest.

[C.O.Prodigy]

for better or for worse, fifa wants all the big guns there-- don't think they are too bothered about any of the rest.

You're right. And the tools at Fifa's disposal to achieve said goals are (bookings and red cards, ranking table, referees, phantom penalties, bad offside calls) all of which serve to concoct what Fifa believes to be a draw that the big money spenders are happy with and which they in turn bought.
Capitalism at it's best and very little to do with football.
It's highly hypocritical to promote "my game is fair play" at under 17 and under 21 tournaments and yet when those players grow up they find out that it was all make believe and that the spirit of fair play applys only if you pay for it or if it's worth fifa's while.
In a perfect world, FiFa should stand for footballing excellence and should back those teams which excel in the game.