**** MINIMAL

**Darkmode** · 07-10-2009, 11:01 PM

I joined this group on facebook called **** Minimal which was started off by Ben Sims it goes to show he is not the only Techno artist who is also pissed off with Minimal

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?...3052329&ref=ts

**DannyBlack** · 07-10-2009, 11:34 PM

hehehe id just like to state that I all along ne ver caved.

**Darkmode** · 08-10-2009, 12:08 AM

you spelt cared wrong ha ha

**djfilthmonger** · 08-10-2009, 12:34 AM

i seen that alright

**The Overfiend** · 08-10-2009, 12:34 AM

I endorse this group.

**DannyBlack** · 08-10-2009, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by Darkmode

you spelt cared wrong ha ha

I was going for Caved hahaha

Minimal (the comercial shit) is shit and always will be shit. end of.

**teknorich** · 08-10-2009, 08:58 AM

Minimal house sucks donkey balls, minimal techno doesn't. Simples!

**basslinejunkie** · 08-10-2009, 09:43 AM

like every genre, 90 per cent of it is dogturd. if done right however its great.

not sure why a minimal forum has been added here though, techno and minimal is like dogs and cats.

**Numeric** · 08-10-2009, 09:56 AM

:lol: so sims is a hater

fair do's, i'd much rather see sims belt it out than any of the big minimal jocks, although i wasn't digging that 'thriller' track he plays on the set that was posted on here recently, in the files section

**The_Laughing_Man** · 08-10-2009, 01:35 PM

Surely this forum doesn`t consist of 12 year old fanboys and actually is frequented by informed adults who understand that it is rather childish to hate on any music that you aren`t into.
What is the point of slagging off another genre of music. Techno as a genre, to continue to be somewhere near the cutting edge needs to change and progress. Artists need to experiment (Sims ironically has played minimal stuff in his sets over the last couple of years).
Currently main stream straight techno or "hard" techno hasn`t really progressed at all. The advent of crossing over with dubstep and minimal, and in fact a new emerging genre of music that sits somewhere between all 3, is the first signs of true progress.
The minimal explosion was a direct reaction to techno running out of steam, artists wanted to try something else. And because of this there have been reactions against it (which is healthy as it has forced progress) and reactions to it (which again is healthy as it pushes artists to try new things).
Music needs to develop to stay alive, and if you look at the history of various genres, at some point a new sound develops within a genre. Those who can`t except change stay with the same thing, and interest in the old skool of that genre wanes until it hits a steady, but not growth, fan base.
The new emergent genre generally gets a new name to separate itself, and begins a growth cycle, reaches a plateu and then the cycle repeats.
Hard techno has had it`s plateu and now I think has gone through it`s decay and has hit it`s steady fan base.

Why bleat about it? What difference will it make?

**DannyBlack** · 08-10-2009, 02:00 PM

This is teh Internetz, bleeting is whut we do.

**The_Laughing_Man** · 08-10-2009, 02:12 PM

Is true.
But I think all dance music hate should be directed towards scouse house, which is excempt from all my above points

**Si the Sigh** · 08-10-2009, 02:17 PM

Shut up Steve.

Blackout Crew FTW!!!1

**DannyBlack** · 08-10-2009, 02:18 PM

hahaha to be honest, i think it is healthy that people are directing the frustration to the white wash that is comercial minimal. There was too much of it. Producers and DJs whoring themselves to milk the minimal cow for money. it was so obvious and sickening to watch your hero's who at one time stood for something... blah blah....

anyway. Bollocks to it all. If it isn't mnml or scouse bloody house or deep shitty spunky house it will be something else.

Deep funky Schranz, minimal hardcore, fidget gabba anyone?

**Si the Sigh** · 08-10-2009, 02:21 PM

Fight teh donkz!!

**DannyBlack** · 08-10-2009, 02:23 PM

Hey, Si. I'll put a donk on you in a minute.

**The_Laughing_Man** · 08-10-2009, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by DannyBlack

it was so obvious and sickening to watch your hero's who at one time stood for something... blah blah....

What did they stand for?

**Si the Sigh** · 08-10-2009, 03:38 PM

AIDS

**DannyBlack** · 08-10-2009, 03:39 PM

This is probably just projection on my part but they stood for everything. When I first got into techno it felt faceless and exciting. Not driven by image as much as the rest of music had become, but driven by passion. Art I suppose. Maybe this was me projecting what I wanted out of it onto it. I dunno. But the minimal entity seemed to suck it out.

**SlavikSvensk** · 08-10-2009, 03:39 PM

if it's good, it's good, and labels be damned.

that said, some sounds churn out more drivel than others.

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