Techno's in serious trouble... ( 1

[dfndr]

my mind sez this: techno will survive but will some djz survive ?
know what i mean!
techno music will be Ok as long as there is some guy stuck in
his room banging some noises from his drum unit!
as for some judge j. or fergie shit(on other topic)...
**** with them...let them play techno...
they will get bored and move on...

[basslinejunkie]

jules is a bloodsucker always has been always will b.he just latches on 2 whatevr genre is doing or starting 2 do well 4 itself an tries 2 suck the life out of it.like sum1 said though,he'l soon get bored of it an go sumwhere else.

[Tony]

wow!!!! i missed this thread. but it just goes to show that all of you guys on this page are PROPER down with techno and well aware of what pop cheese and underground filth is. and also aware of all the finer shades inbetween. big up yo selves!!
mr mark eg deserves knighting for starting threads like this, becease we need to be aware of the potential drudgery we could be swamped with, and to make you aware that 1your purchases count!! 2you need to make the people around you aware OF THE REAL KILLER SHEEEET MAN!!!
my little suggestion is this: alas techno is quite functional so some muppets will pick up on it to make weak shit sound stomping. but i think the common thing that brings us together here runs deeper than even the records. techno to me encapsulated all the sickness and fuct upness my head was already telling me, but pressed onto vinyl. that WILL NEVER be commercialised because the results would be armageddon, but it is certainly prevalent in more things than techno.
i think techno will maybe eventually enter the charts (look at my sarcastic signature about technotronic, that is STILL what some people say when i mention techno...!?!?!?) but the thing that enters the charts will be the super cheesey,funky,accessable stuff imaginable. but the scale of sick records and amazing distributorsa surviving on 500copies per release of pure twisted robot noize.
we need to ignore the masses, let them stop distracting us fromDA REAL SHIT and take a look at the wealth of other, UTTER majestic carnage out there on vinyl that could NEVER make it into commerciality. they can have techno, but they'll never take MY music away.

this forum is ace by the way!!

[dfndr]

this forum is ace by the way!!

yes it is ! its the cyber technovile !
mark beeing the mayor...as we are the people on the "streets"...

[The Overfiend]

I think a major problem with techno is the lack of new producers really breaking through and doin their thing....
the only notable breakthrough id say in the last year for me has been amok...

There isn't a lack of new talent.
There's a lack of people willing to put ego aside and let the changing of the guard occur, but there are few good people with a damn good heart out there encouraging us to keep on.

[jake]

i had the wonderful experience (lol) of seeing jules and fergie on NYE for a few minutes.. not to worry though i didnt hear one techno record.. i sure wouldve liked to though. instead i was stuck in the dnb room with goldie, fresh and mr big bad bass themselves lemon d and dillinja...

in america we dont have to worry about techno dying - its been dead for years unless you live in the midwest like dustin - where there is actually some techno culture left (and lots of cow pastures too). the old guard in la (jon williams, dj hyperactive, barry weaver, guido/oracle prod, etc) has fallen off the map and now sell homes, wash dishes or play 80's and leave the parties up to the young'ins :( at least theres actually parties now.. with people! and some new labels coming up with la's favorites - palette, plug research, immigrant and cytrax! techno is defintely on the rise here, maybe its a necessary cycle...

[Dustin Zahn]

oh trust me, it's dead here. :)

It's just that techno's leg is still twitching a tad after the death.

[SlavikSvensk]

i think the only place in the states where techno is alive and well is new york. i don't know how christian does it, but he gets just about everyone to play at his club (rachmad, beyer, carola, hawtin, etc.) and us punters only have to pay a few bucks (though it used to be free) to get in. i try to go everytime i'm back there.

as for techno's impending commercial breakthrough, i don't believe it. if it can survive "good life" and technotronic, primate records will prove a flash in the pan. besides, even the poppy stuff is difficult for non-discerning ears to acclimate to.

but isn't prime done anyways? the rain makes it hard for us to get stories straight here in seattle.

[Dustin Zahn]

but isn't prime done anyways? the rain makes it hard for us to get stories straight here in seattle.

Haha, you're right on both counts. ;)
I've only played once in NYC but I've heard from numerous people that it isn't all that glorious there right now for techno either.

[The Overfiend]

It's a joke.

[PDT]

There isn't a lack of new talent.
There's a lack of people willing to put ego aside and let the changing of the guard occur, but there are few good people with a damn good heart out there encouraging us to keep on.

Very true...we had the same problem here in Aus *Melbourne in particular*...some mates trying to get their material on established labels was impossible! So we formed our own label...but ive heard a lot of people say the "bastardisation of techno" comes as a result of every producer starting up their own label... :dontevengothere: while that sounds intelligent, its a crock of shit! What is one to do with the people up top constantly push you aside???? Like everyone is already saying, the only way techno will evolve is if there is an injection of new unique tastes and influences...

[MARKEG]

old old thread but interesting to read again nevertheless.

[PDT]

Woops, just noticed the date on this thread Mark...if only i had joined up in 2002! :lol:

[killarava2day]

There isn't a lack of new talent.
There's a lack of people willing to put ego aside and let the changing of the guard occur, but there are few good people with a damn good heart out there encouraging us to keep on.

Very true...we had the same problem here in Aus *Melbourne in particular*...some mates trying to get their material on established labels was impossible! So we formed our own label...but ive heard a lot of people say the "bastardisation of techno" comes as a result of every producer starting up their own label... :dontevengothere: while that sounds intelligent, its a crock of shit! What is one to do with the people up top constantly push you aside???? Like everyone is already saying, the only way techno will evolve is if there is an injection of new unique tastes and influences...

Haven't you got that label 'wet music' in Australia, Melbourne. They seemed to have a few tracks by Umek, Sims etc. Not my cup of tea actually. I have a few of S Didgy's plattens, there was one of his I really enjoyed playing but it wasn't on the wet label?

Anyway, best of luck with your endeavours. What was you label by the way.

[romelpotter]

old old thread but interesting to read again nevertheless.

wow i just got on to the date as well . although it goes to show just how relavent this topic is now.

[PDT]

There isn't a lack of new talent.
There's a lack of people willing to put ego aside and let the changing of the guard occur, but there are few good people with a damn good heart out there encouraging us to keep on.

Very true...we had the same problem here in Aus *Melbourne in particular*...some mates trying to get their material on established labels was impossible! So we formed our own label...but ive heard a lot of people say the "bastardisation of techno" comes as a result of every producer starting up their own label... :dontevengothere: while that sounds intelligent, its a crock of shit! What is one to do with the people up top constantly push you aside???? Like everyone is already saying, the only way techno will evolve is if there is an injection of new unique tastes and influences...

Haven't you got that label 'wet music' in Australia, Melbourne. They seemed to have a few tracks by Umek, Sims etc. Not my cup of tea actually. I have a few of S Didgy's plattens, there was one of his I really enjoyed playing but it wasn't on the wet label?

Anyway, best of luck with your endeavours. What was you label by the way.

Yep, Wetmusik is still around, although with the demise of Prime, *Wet's distributor* all has halted. When Wetmusik were releasing many moons ago from the likes of Willie Tell, it was a great label but i feel as their association with Prime grew, their sound changed and it was virtually impossible to get anything through them.

The label i run is called Melbourne Techno Massive Records *MTMR for short*. Its a mouthfull i know!

Here's a link to our first 2 releases:

Substrata Online Records

[serox]

good reason why i am playing harder music that would not get onto the radio.


alot of 'SUCK MY COCK MOTHEFR ****ERS' hahhaha


'RESPECT THE COCK'

real dark shit, like to see judge jules play that one :o

already said in other posts, too many people are just pushing out too many records, they cant possibly be making anything that good/differant in the time they have!


$$$$$

[jimmy west]

i agree its like the callaborations on nekleuz with andy farly and ant also guy mcaffer and bk half decent tunes but gives the radio one knobheads a reason to play techno keep it true boys on true techno labels

[SlavikSvensk]

so what's the distribution solution? obviously, prime catered to its sales, but that didn't ultimately save it. is there a way to have good distribution while allowing labels to put out forward-thinking stuff? i heard glenn wilson was going to get into distribution...what's the word on that?

[spiralx]

I don't care whether Judge Jules is playing techno, I like techno for what it is, not who is playing it. Saying that because someone commercial is playing it it's gone crap means you're not into it for the music, but the status of being "underground". Bah!